The True Cost Of Israel

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  1. Toby

    Toby Well-Known Member

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    The source of the problem in the Middle East goes way back longer than modern times. It goes back to Abraham's time... even then There was war in the region, but the roots and differences stem there.
     
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    http://eaec.org/newsletters/2007/Jan-Mar/NL2007Jan-Mar1.htm
    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud1.htm
     
  3. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    They are not a Democracy. I'll return to that. I welcome your responses...Are you or have you been a freemason?
     
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    https://fatherfeeney.wordpress.com/
    This was the teaching before the weakening of Christianity in this country and the world.
    And this was what the leader of Christianity's response was to the Zionists who wanted approval to steal back Israel from Palestine:
    http://www.ccjr.us/dialogika-resour...he-history-of-the-relationship/1253-herzl1904

    Hence the conflict between Rome, represented by him, and Jerusalem, represented by me, was once again opened up.

    At the outset, to be sure, I tried to be conciliatory. I recited my little piece about extraterritorialization, res sacrae extra commercium [holy places removed from business]. It didn't make much of an impression. Gerusalemme, he said, must not get into the hands of the Jews.

    "And its present status, Holy Father?"

    "I know, it is not pleasant to see the Turks in possession of our Holy Places. We simply have to put up with that. But to support the Jews in the acquisition of the Holy Places, that we cannot do."

    I said that our point of departure had been solely the distress of the Jews and that we desired to avoid the religious issues.

    "Yes, but we, and I as the head of the Church, cannot do this. There are two possibilities. Either the Jews will cling to their faith and continue to await the Messiah who, for us, has already appeared. In that case they will be denying the divinity of Jesus and we cannot help them. Or else they will go there without any religion, and then we can be even less favorable to them.

    "The Jewish religion was the foundation of our own; but it was superseded by the teachings of Christ, and we cannot concede it any further validity. The Jews, who ought to have been the first to acknowledge Jesus Christ, have not done so to this day."

    It was Vatican II which totally weakened Christianity to the Jews and freemasons in the 60's, hence the worlds troubles today imo.

    This was the first Crusade:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_massacres

    The preaching of the First Crusade inspired an outbreak of anti-Jewish violence. In parts of France and Germany, Jews were perceived as just as much an enemy as Muslims: they were held responsible for the crucifixion, and they were more immediately visible than the distant Muslims. Many people wondered why they should travel thousands of miles to fight non-believers when there were already non-believers closer to home.[8]

    It is also likely that the crusaders were motivated by their need for money. The Rhineland communities were relatively wealthy, both due to their isolation, and because they were not restricted as Catholics were against moneylending. Many crusaders had to go into debt in order to purchase weaponry and equipment for the expedition; as Western Catholicism strictly forbade usury, many crusaders inevitably found themselves indebted to Jewish moneylenders. Having armed themselves by assuming the debt, the crusaders rationalized the killing of Jews as an extension of their Catholic mission.[9]
     
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    The weakening to Israel and the Zionists has done us no good...The climax is $20 trillion in debt imo.....and they still think we have money for Israel when our own people have needs not met.
     
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Worldwide epidemic....they were given their own homeland but it doesn't stop there...they infiltrate all governments that they can.................never wonder why Christian values are attacked.....it is the softening to this which has brought it on.
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Toby Well-Known Member

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    Nope
     
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    Toby Well-Known Member

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    Their homeland was given to them over 2,000 yrs ago not in 1947 and by a much higher power than man. It was taken away from them by the Romans and there is and never was a country called Palestine.
    That term was created by the Romans after a Jewish revolt and the land of Israel was termed Palestinia by the Roman emperor at the time. The Palestinians of today are a makeup of many cultures and ancient nations including the Moab's, the Cananites, and others. In modern days the Jordanians are the closest associates
     
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    Our government is broke for many more reasons than foreign aid to Israel. Wasteful spending on pet projects domestically far outweighs our aid to Israel, but let's over look that and use Israel as a scapegoat.. you do know where that term scapegoat originates right? It is no wonder Israel has been that punching bag for centuries.
     
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    Who was it that ran up the debt by 10 trillion in the last eight years and for what purpose? What was the benifit of all that spending?
    Was it all given toward Israel?
    Did it really address domestic problems?
    Some just look for blame of Israel for all their woes, believe me Israel is not the reason for our current debt situation when one administration by its lonesome self wasted and spent more than any other administration before it combined for little to show. Again some just like to use Israel as a scapegoat
     
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    You will not help Christianity nor America by defending them and justifying them. IMO.
    There were reasons why Jesus Christ stood up to them....and them reasons have not died. IMO.
    We were told to shake off the sand from our sandals...not hang out with them and let their ways rub off on us.
     
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Domestic is what our budget should be used for....yet you think it's ok to put Israel above that...Should we also put the white flag with Star Of David right nest to ours flying at the same height? or maybe it should be above ours....keep thinking sympathetically and it will...no doubt about that.
     
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    They've brought that on themselves for centuries.
     
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    We have no money for Israel. Period.
    That is not conservative...Please retrain your thinking if you think that conservative means spending any money on another nation,,especially a nation which has clearly infiltrated and undermined us and Christianity for many years through dual citizenship and heavy involvement in our government. No othe nation has that power and none should....I cannot believe that flag waving conservatives defend them every time...Treason is what it is...not patriotism.
    Instead the "conservtives" would arrest planted agents from the Pope if they were as heavily involved in our government...they'd defend those who hung Christ on a cross and persecute those who compiled their Bible..........Judases...for silver pieces.
     
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    Toby Well-Known Member

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    What is the origin of the term "scapegoat"?
    "
    A "scapegoat" was originally a goat driven off into the wilderness as part of the ceremonies of the Day of Atonement in Judaism. The idea was that the goat, having the sins of the people placed upon its back, would be sent out to perish, thus saving the people by its death. In Leviticus 16:6 the goat is described:

    And Aaron shall offer his bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and make an..."
    https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/origin-term-scapegoat-103095



    We see over and over throughout history those who for their own purposes have used the Jew's and Christians as scapegoats for their own transgressions and agendas. Hitler and the National Socialists were not the first to turn to them as scapegoats and they are not th last.

    Today we see those who use them as scapegoats for transgressions of wasteful and blaintent misused allocation of funds and for political agendas. I wrote in those postings from yesterday how we rather look to blame others for the choices we make by free will.
     
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    Toby Well-Known Member

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    You do realize that Jesus knew from the start that he was destined for the cross right?
     
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    I see the freewill choice of allowing them to own our government as a choice some are making of their own freewill...for money...but they are not making that choice for or by me...they do it for themselves.
    There's money and political time given to another nation......we have our own problems.
    the Middle east is not our region of the world. We have borders and they are not over there.....We are not an Empire. when we can't take care of our own...we have no business taking care of the world.
    $20 trillion in debt.
     
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Yes.......was he using them as a scapegoat?
     
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    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Do you see Islam as a scapegoat?
    Communism?
    Socialism?
     

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