The "U" word

Discussion in 'Estes Express Lines' started by hightyde, May 13, 2015.

  1. Frootloop

    Frootloop Well-Known Member

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    We are down to the last few and it's about useless anyways.
     
  2. 30yearman

    30yearman Active Member

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    You better hope not. When the last Union company closes watch the pay go down considerably. You can hate the Unions all you want but they're the reason why you make the money you do.
     
  3. a9faninnc

    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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    That statement is so 70,s...:hysterical:
     
  4. 30yearman

    30yearman Active Member

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    Wait and see.It would have been true in the 70's and it will be true no matter what year it is if all the Union companies close up.
     
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  5. a9faninnc

    a9faninnc Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Nah,I think you are giving today,s Union way too much perceived leverage.I see your statement alot in these forums,usually on a non union forum,by a union employee.If it makes you feel good,that,s fine,I guess.I think its overused and out of date.
     
  6. *starflyer59*

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    Well you might be right from where you are at but Estes was worse when the union was stronger. Please don't turn this into hating unions. It's about the leadership of the unions that push people away. It's not our fault your union is dying. Maybe some just hate the union but most see the union as a political arm on the wrong side. I like the NRA membership, strength in numbers!
     
  7. mlang216

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    The hate is a deterrent for a lot of the non-Union crowd, however, Its far more discouraging when I meet and speak with union folk who talk badly about or condescend their brethren. There seems to be an external us vs. them as well as an internal.

    Many occasions I've heard them speak in a way that makes me hesitant to jump. I've rejected offers from ABF and YRC this year, and I'm still not at peace with the decision. I wish I could have felt more comfortable about the change, but the tumultuous nature of YRC scared me off as well as a lot of PMs warning against it.
     
  8. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    You don't want that to happen I won't get my easy road driver checks and mildew can't enjoy his 1800+ payday.
     
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  9. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    If I was
    if I was you I would have took abf offer. If they had road op where I live I wouldn't be at holland.
     
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  10. buffalobill

    buffalobill Well-Known Member

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    you ignore reality then, go into Michigan or ohio cities and look for factory jobs. there are plenty around, but they don't pay :shit:, because they got around the uaw and usw with TEMP agencies. there used to be good money in working at a factory, now its a min wage job...EVERY industry that pushes a union out of influence takes wages down to nothing.
     
  11. Starkravinloon

    Starkravinloon Hero's Falling At Home

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    Wages are going down now for the same work done 10 years ago.. Thanks to the Prez...
     
  12. Getoverit

    Getoverit Well-Known Member

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    Very wrong on the pension, they would be in a plan of their choosing!
     
  13. kantgetryte

    kantgetryte Well-Known Member

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  14. buffalobill

    buffalobill Well-Known Member

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    very clever......what happened to my nipple?
     

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