Time off in winter

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  1. Redracer3136

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    All good points and I can't say I disagree with any of them....except that some don't take every Friday, just the Friday's during the winter when the temp is above 70!! :1036316054:

    I think we all agree with the philosophy that people "should" come first. Agreed, when drivers are sitting, days off without pay should be granted...but, with the road (especially at hubs), enough drivers have to be kept on hold to make sure there's enough to cover the PM volume. Just because four drivers are sitting at home on the AM doesn't mean four can have the day off, with or without pay.

    Agreed again, freight flow specialist and hub planners are good at what they do, no doubt, but there's always freight that's unpredictable which causes overflow/extra runs. At hubs, we also have to account for runs called against us from the other end. My guess is drivers being denied days off without pay and forcing other drivers off without pay is rare and the exception.

    Not my theory but rather my opinion...and it forces drivers to decide on whether or not they want to burn their vacation during the slow months or use it for when they bid vacation later in the year.

    For your "key point", I can only speak for our center and this past year it actually effected more drivers than you may realize. It was a very rare occurrence for a driver to get a day off without pay last year which lead to quite a few drivers not having enough vacaction days to cover their bid vacations later in the year (Oct-Dec) which resulted in drivers having to give up their bid vacations due to lack of time available which allowed junior drivers who were on standby for said week to slide in and get the week off....those same junior drivers that sat at home during the winter months.

    NOTE: Please realize I'm not for or against this policy, just playing devils advocate for conversation. Personally, I usually keep enough vacaction time banked to cover any day I may want to take.
     
  2. citydog

    citydog Well-Known Member

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    You would be surprised at the number of drivers that don't bank anything. Get 10 hrs burn 10 hrs, always good idea to save for a rainy day.
     
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    Same guys that are always at their limit on points for calling off then they're surprised when that have to call off for a legitimate reason and can't believe they got fired. They'll ask "what did you expect me to do I was sick as heck"? Well we wanted you to come to work those other days when nothing was wrong.
     
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  4. nas250

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    Same here!
     
  5. nas250

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    I make it a practice of having at least 80 hours banked while still taking the 160 that is accrued over the year.
     
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  6. Trucker 206

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    Or a...SNOWY day.
     
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    Oh, the devils advocate angle? While I can see your points, the original question pertained to restricted time off, while "7-10 sit home".

    We can agree that it is impossible to accurately predict the freight level/workforce balance needed days or weeks in advance. But it CAN be (and is) predicted throughout the day. Decisions are made daily on the amount of manpower required for the following shift, day or night.

    This is when a volunteer list should come into play. No different than the skeleton crew process for the Fri before Christmas/New Year, etc. Whatever the numbers dictate, volunteers are selected from the top down, required workers are selected from the bottom up. Only then is the option for pay even considered... Why should any slow days not follow the same process? Again, the default answer should be yes, unless and until there is significant reason to say no, IMHO. In this case, the reason is speculative, and potentially (financially) detrimental to those at the bottom of the board. To apply points seems punitive and contrary to the stated philosophy. The only way you can help your coworker at the bottom is to burn vacation/personal days?

    No reason to go on and on about it. I think we agree on principal, as well as motive. My location seems unaffected by it, so I'm really just a casual observer. :stirthepot:
     
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  8. Redracer3136

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    Again, agreed on most but what many drivers fail to realize is that the company has to look out for the best interest of everyone, NOT just the driver who wants a day off without pay. To many times people think the world revolves around them...it doesn't!!

    Not sure I follow you...so you're suggesting a volunteer list during the week?? It's my understanding that some centers already do this..when applicable...and it works as you suggested.

    At our center freight has slowed to the point where we rarely use city drivers on the road but all road drivers are working which means we must use pay for a day off. Even if two or three drivers were sitting at home, I don't think it would make a difference because of the forementioned reasons...not sure what number would justify letting drivers off without pay but one would think 7-10 would be sufficient. As for the city, since we're not using (as many) city drivers on the road, one would think a day off without pay would be easier to come by but I'm not on that side so who knows. :idunno:
     
  9. blindbaron

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    Thanks for all the comments they are finally starting to listen us and giving some guys off without pay so bottom guys can work and pay their bills!!! So it is good to complain to management once in awhile!!
     
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  10. Richard Cranium

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    Yesterday and today off without pay. Wasn't a problem at all. Someone heard that six snowflakes were going to be stacked on top of each other and cancelled all the runs. SMH
     
  11. vongrimmenstein

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    I have no earthly idea what you are talking about. But, float, pontoons, & purple thong in the same post? Now that is down right funny. von
     

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