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No, Joe all CEO's aren't evil. Some are & some aren't. Most are simply trying to make a buck for the shareholders. Why do you always seem to rely on extreme and often unrealistic scenarios to prop up your usually ill-conceived arguments? Show me when Judy has been evil, and then you may have a leg to stand on...
That most CEO's are simply trying to make a buck for the shareholders is my argument..my point. They love shareholders. Teamsters are labor cost. CEO's hate labor cost. That is what brings out the scoundrel in CEO's. They will do anything to enhance shareholder value and reduce labor cost. I don't single out Judy. This is her first teamster contract right? She hasn't played out her hand yet. I think ABF senior management are scoundrels for a variety of reasons

First they try to circumvent the NMFA pension in the '08 contract by by-passing TMI and negotiate with TNFINC to drop the pension ABF CEO Calls for Quitting Teamster Pension Plans | Teamsters for a Democratic Union. Tyson told them to fawgeddabouditt and sign this "me too' or I'll strike your ass. This went on while YRC was negotiating with TMI.. for the Gold Standard NMFA..the best contract ever. Then ABF had the nerve to cry foul when YRC was given concessions.

So they sue for damages with the hope the lawsuit would derail YRC's re-structure with the lenders and kill the YRC stock price. This is all for the reason of improving shareholder value..of increasing the ABF stock price. The ABF stock was at a high of over $33 a few years ago and headed toward the sky..I say again when the court speaks ABF stock price will get pummeled bad. The ABF shenanigans are all about the stock price. If ABF does lose it ain't doing the ABF teamsters any good. If they win it is the end of the pension for all. But yet you all seem to think your beloved ABF is only trying to level the playing field. ABF the company is trying to destroy the playing field. That's why they're scoundrels.

But Some how some way ABF and YRC labor costs have to be made equal to keep peace or Judy will be forced to make a move but I doubt she has the leadership to face the IBT. Who could blame her? The IBT lets the rank and file make the tough decisions on concessions and she knows where that is going..ABF tried and fail to negotiate the pension away. Tried and failed to get a yes vote/concessions and now tried and failed to get the court to do the dirty work. Judy may be forced to be a scoundrel










Hey Joe...since you are hesitant about starting that thread and if you want ...I'll start that thread for you over there on the YRC forum. I'll title it..."Joe the Plumber and Billy boy Zollars...Friends 'Til The End"
You'll have to check with 222 first to see if it's okay. He makes the tough calls
You are wrong again...that lawsuit has nothing to do with ABF wanting to put YRC out of business...it was for the purpose of leveling the playing field...please get your facts straight. After all...there's nobody that could of done a better job than your buddy Billy boy when it comes to putting YRC out of business.

ya right
 
That most CEO's are simply trying to make a buck for the shareholders is my argument..my point. They love shareholders. Teamsters are labor cost. CEO's hate labor cost. That is what brings out the scoundrel in CEO's. They will do anything to enhance shareholder value and reduce labor cost. I don't single out Judy. This is her first teamster contract right? She hasn't played out her hand yet. I think ABF senior management are scoundrels for a variety of reasons

First they try to circumvent the NMFA pension in the '08 contract by by-passing TMI and negotiate with TNFINC to drop the pension ABF CEO Calls for Quitting Teamster Pension Plans | Teamsters for a Democratic Union. Tyson told them to fawgeddabouditt and sign this "me too' or I'll strike your ass. This went on while YRC was negotiating with TMI.. for the Gold Standard NMFA..the best contract ever. Then ABF had the nerve to cry foul when YRC was given concessions.

So they sue for damages with the hope the lawsuit would derail YRC's re-structure with the lenders and kill the YRC stock price. This is all for the reason of improving shareholder value..of increasing the ABF stock price. The ABF stock was at a high of over $33 a few years ago and headed toward the sky..I say again when the court speaks ABF stock price will get pummeled bad. The ABF shenanigans are all about the stock price. If ABF does lose it ain't doing the ABF teamsters any good. If they win it is the end of the pension for all. But yet you all seem to think your beloved ABF is only trying to level the playing field. ABF the company is trying to destroy the playing field. That's why they're scoundrels.

But Some how some way ABF and YRC labor costs have to be made equal to keep peace or Judy will be forced to make a move but I doubt she has the leadership to face the IBT. Who could blame her? The IBT lets the rank and file make the tough decisions on concessions and she knows where that is going..ABF tried and fail to negotiate the pension away. Tried and failed to get a yes vote/concessions and now tried and failed to get the court to do the dirty work. Judy may be forced to be a scoundrel











You'll have to check with 222 first to see if it's okay. He makes the tough calls


ya right
All the wasted wind(TYPING) joseph. We will have a vote on the pension matter. You keep forgetting that. And least you forget WE ARE THE GOLD STANDARD! I pay for your pension everyday and your welcome. I have a young brother who is now paying mine.
By the way joe how much money did yrc make last month before the lenders took theirs? When you post the proof and links then we will talk about who has what. YOUR GOLD STANDARD LIVING BROTHER ALWAYS!
 
I pay for your pension everyday and your welcome.
By the way joe how much money did yrc make last month before the lenders took theirs? When you post the proof and links then we will talk about who has what. YOUR GOLD STANDARD LIVING BROTHER ALWAYS!

Thanks for the help with the pension. You want links? I got more links then Spaghetti. I have so many links it is ridiculous. I do admit to not having one to prove Obama did actually say "screw the Constitution"
222 got me on that one. Oh well, you can't win em all. But I do believe YRC did sell off a lot of properties off to pay for the acquisitions as ABF did with Carolina. Vulture capitalism is not a crime
 
Thanks for the help with the pension. You want links? I got more links then Spaghetti. I have so many links it is ridiculous. I do admit to not having one to prove Obama did actually say "screw the Constitution"
222 got me on that one. Oh well, you can't win em all. But I do believe YRC did sell off a lot of properties off to pay for the acquisitions as ABF did with Carolina. Vulture capitalism is not a crime


If you have the links to prove what you say then post them...either that or stay away from that keyboard of yours and quit embarrassing yourself. You thanked Muler for his help with your pension and now you can thank me for that new 3D television of yours.
 
If you have the links to prove what you say then post them...either that or stay away from that keyboard of yours and quit embarrassing yourself. You thanked Muler for his help with your pension and now you can thank me for that new 3D television of yours.

I'd be happy to provide a link. To what? Could you be specific? You want a link to something I said? Or something that is common knowledge? Or something from an outside source that would require a link? A sausage link? What?
 
Whew been working so hard making so much money I haven't had time to get on here lately:)
First Zollars did what CEOs do and that is try to make money for the shareholders at the expense of everything else. (That is why this republican is pro union)
He DID call the economic downturn about a year and a half ahead, I remember an article in a magazine where he stated that he expected fright levels to fall in the next two years, he was basing it on the new diesel engine requirements that all the manufacturers were buying ahead and that there would be a lull in the market for a while, he just didn't know how bad it would be with gas prices and the housing crash.
I think his plan was to buy roadway and then merge when freight levels fell off a little but he didn't know how bad it would get and probably miscalculated the problems of the debt load especially when they had to write down the value of USF Plus the problem that some USF companies weren't making money. And some were making poor decisions regarding service area.
Should Zollars be excused? NO he took the risk and WE took the penalty. Ruined a lot of lives and he wont have to change his lifestyle one bit.
I think ABF management is more conservative than that and less willing to make big financial gambles. But they will try to take whatever advantage they can at contract time. I don't have much faith if we have that same negotiators that we had for the givebacks at YRC, they were really horrible on the language, I don't even play a lawyer on tv and I could have done a better job.
 
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Whew been working so hard making so much money I haven't had time to get on here lately:)
First Zollars did what CEOs do and that is try to make money for the shareholders at the expense of everything else. (That is why this republican is pro union)
He DID call the economic downturn about a year and a half ahead, I remember an article in a magazine where he stated that he expected fright levels to fall in the next two years, he was basing it on the new diesel engine requirements that all the manufacturers were buying ahead and that there would be a lull in the market for a while, he just didn't know how bad it would be with gas prices and the housing crash.
I think his plan was to buy roadway and then merge when freight levels fell off a little but he didn't know how bad it would get and probably miscalculated the problems of the debt load especially when they had to write down the value of USF Plus the problem that some USF companies weren't making money. And some were making poor decisions regarding service area.
Should Zollars be excused? NO he took the risk and WE took the penalty. Ruined a lot of lives and he wont have to change his lifestyle one bit.
I think ABF management is more conservative than that and less willing to make big financial gambles. But they will try to take whatever advantage they can at contract time. I don't have much faith if we have that same negotiators that we had for the givebacks at YRC, they were really horrible on the language, I don't even play a lawyer on tv and I could have done a better job.

That is a very good assessment. Excellent I might add. Zollars was an economic grad..I was thinking, is it possible he saw the storm coming and did the buy-outs to produce the out come that we have to date? given he didn't get to where he was by being stupid
 
He WAS widely regarded as a very smart business man.
But do I wish he would have taken another job instead of the ceo position at yellow? YESSS!!!
 
I'd be happy to provide a link. To what? Could you be specific? You want a link to something I said? Or something that is common knowledge? Or something from an outside source that would require a link? A sausage link? What?


Well...let's start with the link with your all so popular "Gold Standard NMFA" that you keep referring to.
 
Docker there is only one Gold Standard NMFA the 2008-2013 NMFA Contract, which YRC and ABF are a part of. The Union can't and will not go to court. If they do and don't win it's over the end of the union. They have put themself in a no win spot. They the union and YRC don't have the money to pay ABF. All ABF wanted was to buy out of the funds in the last contract and not be forced fed a YRC contract. But in the end that is what they got, forced to sign a me to contract. This has been done by many union companies before including by YRC itself, Holland and others.
 
Docker there is only one Gold Standard NMFA the 2008-2013 NMFA Contract, which YRC and ABF are a part of. The Union can't and will not go to court. If they do and don't win it's over the end of the union. They have put themself in a no win spot. They the union and YRC don't have the money to pay ABF. All ABF wanted was to buy out of the funds in the last contract and not be forced fed a YRC contract. But in the end that is what they got, forced to sign a me to contract. This has been done by many union companies before including by YRC itself, Holland and others.


There is no such thing as the "Gold Standard" NMFA...it's all just a figment in Joe's imagination. That's why I want him to provide a link for this so called Gold Standard NMFA...which he can't do.
 
There is no such thing as the "Gold Standard" NMFA...it's all just a figment in Joe's imagination. That's why I want him to provide a link for this so called Gold Standard NMFA...which he can't do.

Here is your link..The "Gold Standard NMFA" is one a company has TMI negotiate with TNFINC. Copy? ABF chose not to have TMI negotiate for them because they were up to no good..instead they negotiated the '08 contract with TNFINC separately in a bid to wiggle out of the pension. It didn't work. It failed. Tyson told ABF hell no, bro..fawgeddaboudit. YRC however did have TMI negotiate with TNFINC..without ABF being present..therefore making ABF not a party to it. How many times do you need to hear it? I said it over and over and over again but I'll say it again..write it down so you don't forget
TMI negotiates the "Gold Standard NMFA for the major carriers" You can bet ABF will team up with TMI this time around now that they have been exposed. But not to worry, you're looking good. ABF has plenty of cash. Go for it.
 
Here is your link..The "Gold Standard NMFA" is one a company has TMI negotiate with TNFINC. Copy? ABF chose not to have TMI negotiate for them because they were up to no good..instead they negotiated the '08 contract with TNFINC separately in a bid to wiggle out of the pension. It didn't work. It failed. Tyson told ABF hell no, bro..fawgeddaboudit. YRC however did have TMI negotiate with TNFINC..without ABF being present..therefore making ABF not a party to it. How many times do you need to hear it? I said it over and over and over again but I'll say it again..write it down so you don't forget
TMI negotiates the "Gold Standard NMFA for the major carriers" You can bet ABF will team up with TMI this time around now that they have been exposed. But not to worry, you're looking good. ABF has plenty of cash. Go for it.


The link Joey...not a headline from a figment of your imagination!!!! I want a link...any link that associates the words Gold Standard with any NMFA! So you see...you do nothing but BS!!!!!!
 
I know...but look at the fun we will have watching Joey being made to look like a fool again...lol

Only ABF could make a fool of you. By screwing you out of your pension by not negotiating in good faith with the "Gold Standard" "TMI" in '08. Here is your link you requested,
ABF CEO Calls for Quitting Teamster Pension Plans | Teamsters for a Democratic Union


Pension Cuts Take A Human Toll | Teamsters for a Democratic Union
read bottom of article, fool. Gold Standard is just slang to describe the best.
Just slang used by me and many other teamsters who are enjoying the Gold Standard retirement
Fool, negotiating with TNFINC as ABF did in '08 is not the Gold Standard as you should have learned by now
 

Only ABF could make a fool of you. By screwing you out of your pension by not negotiating in good faith with the "Gold Standard" "TMI" in '08. Here is your link you requested,
ABF CEO Calls for Quitting Teamster Pension Plans | Teamsters for a Democratic Union


Pension Cuts Take A Human Toll | Teamsters for a Democratic Union
read bottom of article, fool. Gold Standard is just slang to describe the best.
Just slang used by me and many other teamsters who are enjoying the Gold Standard retirement
Fool, negotiating with TNFINC as ABF did in '08 is not the Gold Standard as you should have learned by now

Joey who do you think TMI ARE? They are all YRCW EXECUTIVES! That is why this contract was such a huge failure. I can't believe you did not know who TMI was. Everybody on that committee works for yrcw. Bad call joe. YOUR GOLD STANDARD BROTHER ALWAYS!
 
How about it Brothers do you think that by bring executives up thru the ranks is one reason ABF stays the coarse?



Mr. Robert A. Young, III., serves as an Independent Chairman of the Board of Arkansas Best Corporation. Mr. Young has been a Director of the Company since 1970 and Chairman of the Board since July 2004. He was Chief Executive Officer of the Company from August 1988 until his retirement in January 2006. He was President from 1973 to 2004 and was Chief Operating Officer from 1973 to 1988. Mr. Young served as President of ABF Freight System, Inc. (“ABF”), the Company’s subsidiary, from 1979 to 1994. Between 1964 and 1973, he worked as Supervisor of Terminal Operations for ABF; Vice President–General Manager of Data-Tronics Corp., a Company subsidiary; Senior Vice President–National Bank of Commerce of Dallas; and as Vice President, Finance and Executive Vice President of the Company. Mr. Young was a Director of Treadco, Inc. from June 1991 to June 1999. Treadco, Inc. was a publicly held company from 1991 to 1999.


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Slagle, Roy
Brief Biography

Mr. Roy M. Slagle serves as President, Chief Executive Officer of ABF Freight System Inc, a subsidiary of Arkansas Best Corp. since January 1, 2012. Mr. Slagle was Senior Vice President - Sales and Marketing of ABF from February 2006 through December 2011, Vice President - Administration and Treasurer for ABF from January 2000 through January 2006 and Vice President and Treasurer for ABF from 1995 to 2000. He was a Regional Vice President of Sales for ABF from 1989 to 1995. Between 1976 and 1989, Mr. Slagle served ABF as Operations Supervisor at the Dayton, Ohio terminal; Operations Manager at the Dayton terminal; Branch Manager at the Cincinnati, Ohio terminal; Branch Manager at the Carlisle, Pennsylvania terminal; and Regional Training Specialist at the Dayton terminal

Stock Quotes & Company News | Reuters.com
 

Only ABF could make a fool of you. By screwing you out of your pension by not negotiating in good faith with the "Gold Standard" "TMI" in '08. Here is your link you requested,
ABF CEO Calls for Quitting Teamster Pension Plans | Teamsters for a Democratic Union


Pension Cuts Take A Human Toll | Teamsters for a Democratic Union
read bottom of article, fool. Gold Standard is just slang to describe the best.
Just slang used by me and many other teamsters who are enjoying the Gold Standard retirement
Fool, negotiating with TNFINC as ABF did in '08 is not the Gold Standard as you should have learned by now


I said that I wanted a link for the Gold Standard NMFA and you give me a link about the pension being the gold standard for retirement:

The Teamster pension used to be the gold standard for retirement

Now...go back and find the link...any link for the Gold Standard NMFA...and don't come back till you do!
 
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