Discussion in 'Politics' started by runawaytrain, Sep 19, 2017.
We should wait until west coast is no more then kill them all.
It's too late for a preemptive strike, we sat back and let this happen, now we have to take one on the chin, then respond. Sad, but no way I want us striking first.
Yep. It should never have gone this far. Too many presidents kicked the can down the road
Why do you say that? We have an arsenal of weapons that could destroy city after city and missile site after missile site, launched toward them from all directions.
We have stuff that has been sitting in storage for decades that needs to be use up anyway.
And take out every dwelling that that pot bellied POS has laid his head down at.
We have technology tracking his launcher's every move.
I hate to strike first also, but if we don't it might be us that loses the millions of people. And it's been his big mouth that put his country in to this position.
I can't believe that some patriotic North Korean military guy hasn't taken him out from point blank range, and take one for their team.
We dont have the capability to take them out in a few minutes like you said, and we would need to.
In the back of my mind I always ask myself, does Un even have nuclear capabilities,....is this just bluster?
Maybe someone inside his regime close to him will come to realize he's a nut job and co operate with our government to just take him out. Maybe one of those heart attack pills or something.
Send them his way, coming from all angles, all timed to strike at the same time.
He wouldn't even know which way to turn.
Nuclear FALLOUT will invade South Korea (what's remaining), Japan, China, Russia BEFORE it travels to the U.S.A.
Russia and China will not do anything?
Y'all think kim jong isn't daily informed of world events, news, etc.?
Like somehow some type AGRESSION would be a surprise?
All they need do is follow along on twitter.
What about Covert Ops?
Seems WE had Teams of Covert Ops performing all types of missions in previous skirmishes/wars of attrition, so how is north korea so difficult to invade from the Ground?
WE are all over the world with Military Bases as well Covert Ops/SEALS/Troops/Black Ops available for whatever arises.
There are those People as well Military Personnel that have successfully escaped from n. korea/defected to S. Korea and having some knowledge of some areas to invade for probable immediate solutions to many problems.
grump and kim jong are similar in opinions as well attitudes. They're both childish adults as well having the "I want what I want when I want it" mentality.
Put them in a boxing arena and let them have at it, put the winner on a pedestal and shoot him in the head. Problem solved.
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END TIMES if such AGRESSION is engaged.
WWIII because such AGRESSION will not be simple or free of retribution.
That would be a best case scenario.Some form of an electro-magnetic pulse to obliterate all forms of communication may also be an option.Trump will act only on the advice of his Generals,of which I have trust in.North Korea is just another one of the mess,s Trump inherited from previous administrations.Not any good options.
And EMP bomb would be an excellent option. By knocking out his electronics and communications Un couldn't do much.....short term, but that doesn't help long term.
Not many good options. All are high risk.
short term would be long enough to 86 him
Would Trump need approval from Congress to attack? You seem to be one of the smartest ones on here in the political arena. You would think there would be some sort of checks and balances in regards to the nuclear arsenal?
That question has been debated of every President the answer is no he does not need Congressional approval. Congress has the power to declare war. The president has the power to direct our military at all times thus he is the " Comander In Chief" and has the power to direct the military to attack or act
If the west gets hit ?
You won't have to worry about the rest
Google and your electronics won't be there to tell you anything.
Excellent read on this issue. https://aclj.org/national-security/...ilitary-action-without-congressional-approval
Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the powertodeclarewar. The President, meanwhile, derives the power to direct the military at all times, whether or not there is a formal declaration of war, from Article II, Section 2, which names the President Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces. The President’s constitutional powers are quite broad in the context of limited military action. Additionally, courts have long upheld the President’s right to be the sole voice of the nation, in charge of conducting our foreign policy. In general, constitutional powers are not so much separated as "linked and sequenced"; Congress's control over the armed forces is structured by appropriation and provision, while the President commands all military forces.
The War Powers Act, which Congress designed to limit a President’s power to commit U.S. troops to combat, was passed as a Joint Resolution in 1973. The Act concedes that the commander-in-chief role gives the President power to repel attacks against the United States and makes the President responsible for leading the armed forces. It provides that the President can send the armed forces into action abroad only by declaration of war by Congress, "statutory authorization," or in case of "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.” It also requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without a Congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war. It must be noted, though, that no Administration of either political party has agreed that the War Powers Act is constitutional. Instead, rather than formally “complying with” the provisions of the Act (which would imply agreement with the Act’s legality), all Administrations state instead that they are acting “consistent with” the Act’s provisions (which implies that they are acting as they do because they freely choose to do so, not because they are compelled to do so).
The last declared war for the United States was World War II. In fact, Congress has only declared war in five of our military engagements in our nation’s history – the War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, the Spanish-American War, World War I, and World War II. There is no necessity for a declaration of war to accompany every military action. The details and procedures of such a requirement would be burdensome and obstructive to the President’s need to be decisive and swift in military matters, when quick action is called for.
A Declaration of War is a formal, legislative act that informs the world of a state of war existing between the bodies named in that declaration, and reveals that a long, drawn-out conflict is the subject of such a declaration. A Declaration of War also triggers a series of U.S. statutes that allow, inter alia, the President to direct that civilian industry complies with federal directives to produce needed war materiel and to intern nationals of the state(s) against which the United States is fighting.
It is impossible to imagine how long it would take to get Congress to agree on the conditions of a declaration for every single military operation. More likely, the fighting would be over before we could act, and our homeland or strategic interests would be in grave danger, as a result.
In short, here are the President’s powers as Commander in Chief:
He can order U.S. forces into military action if, in his judgment, the safety or strategic interests of the United States are threatened. Period.
He must inform Congress of these actions within 48 hours of the event.
The troops cannot be committed for more than 60 days, without Congressional approval. He may use an additional 30 days to re-deploy the troops.
Until a new Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) is passed by Congress, our last three presidents have all used the AUMF passed after 9/11/2001 as broad permission to fight all terror groups and acts of terror, anywhere in the world. This is the justification for the thousands of troops presently deployed to Iraq and Syria, and for other Special Operations missions in places like Somalia and Yemen.
Here's the text:
These are North Korea's friends:
It would not surprise me if Israel turned on us with this situation and our debt either.
Well let's look at things a little differently....they gave all our industries away.....they took out the commonfolks lobby, which was the unions......gone for decades with any real teeth.......import a whole lot of our necessities......probably military necessities also.....China probably has a lot of that......North Korea is China's puppet imo........our debt is $20 trillion.....we've been invaded by over 11 million illegals(I'm guessing on that number) by people who are here because we allowed the same people behind all this to basically make Mexicans the next best thing to outright slaves..that's why they come here.......Our friends in Europe are also systematically being overrun by Arab refugees with no intent on becoming assimilated Europeans..they are almost there as an enemy invasion..........Russia doesn't like us....the Arabs don't like us......South Africa is performing genocide unreported on all the whites down there.......The BRICS want there own money sytem apart from the dollar.....
There's probably more gloom....but it's looking like we may be about to face a "perfect storm". Canada is also taking in and has been taking in tons of our Arab enemies......
The first Jesuit Pope ever.....makes things a little interesting also.....not to mention that he has Pope Benedict still in Rome...Emeritus.....strange days.....and Francis answers to the Superior General of the Jesuits.....3 very powerful men in Rome.