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v-rod said:
at Holland @the location I worked a good week was 3 days I work there for 1.5 yrs stewarts keep saying it would get better ,but. after going through 10,000 dollars of savings to pay bills it was time to go! ups freight was good until the contract went from 5&6 days aweek to 3maybe4 if there was a run to be covered after 3 yrs it was my time for the hard layoff .at fxf I have worked 5&6 days aweek for 4yrs now average about 1950 week far better than I made under teamster contracts. fed ex heathcare for my wifes cancer has paid 92% of bill and never once had to worry about healthcare coverage one week to the next.
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"end of line" FXF terminal, right?...cause my experience at a hub was polar opposite...In 3 yrs never made over 37k
 
v-rod said:
fed ex is FAR better than any of the union companys I have worked for . I have worked for usf Holland and ups freight. health care is far better at fed ex than teamster healthcare plan,made more money at fed ex than the union companys.
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I pay $52/MONTH union dues. That covers my healthcare and representation amongst other things. Teamster Healthcare is the best and cheapest i ever had but the longer you stay out it gets a little worse..I never thought it would happen but the dental went up and copays went up.....nothing like the games the nons can play with no contract though....but the lesser the union numbers, the lesser the compensation.

I worked for places that changed my healthcare cost and providers at will, sometimes every other month.....I had one that was taking money out of our checks and not giving it to CIGNA who was our provider. When ya have a baby the healthcare costs are paid after the baby is born..the whole 9months of bills. The mother company went down weeks before my daughter was born. None of the bills were paid and i was unemployed when they folded.......never got paid. My credit was never repaired. No time or money for lawyers when ya have 5 mouths to feed.......somebody skated with millions, just not me. The name of the company i worked for was Logistics Personel Corp. i forget who the mother company was.
 
fartknocker said:
I appreciate you guys sharing your benefit info,with real numbers.
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No problem here. I know it's the best deal I ever had. $52/MONTH union dues, covers my healthcare, representation, pension.........but the longer everybody stays out of the union, the worse it gets for EVERYBODY. IT baffles me why guys wouldn't want it.

everybody out for so long has made it so UPSF got a seperate deal, and ABF and YRC are against the wall........FOR WHAT????!!???
SO THE COMPANIES CAN TAKE MORE, EXPECT MORE, AND WE GET LESS AND WORK HARDER??????

Why would ya do that?
The more in the better it gets for all in the trade, not just the Teamsters.
And the less in, the worse it gets.

I think my co-pays are $20/office visit, $25/specialist, and $100/ER visit.
Our dental went from "everything covered" up to $1000/family member to now, $750/family member. Eyeglasses are one every 2 years/family member, free if ya pick from their selections which are good.
 
How did the Hostess situation turn out for the BCTGM members?

In a nutshell that is my problem with unions. Sometimes compromise is necessary rather than an "all or nothing" stance.

One of our school districts has been operating a deficit for a while now. Rather than try to work something out the teachers decided to strike for more money. Where was the money going to come from? The district is running a $2,000,000 deficit. The average teacher in the district was earning $68,000+ (which is at least $20,000 higher than the average salary in the county). Sometimes the answer to "Can I have a raise?" is NO. There still are a lot of hard feelings towards reachers for that move.
 
Elendil said:
How did the Hostess situation turn out for the BCTGM members?

In a nutshell that is my problem with unions. Sometimes compromise is necessary rather than an "all or nothing" stance.

One of our school districts has been operating a deficit for a while now. Rather than try to work something out the teachers decided to strike for more money. Where was the money going to come from? The district is running a $2,000,000 deficit. The average teacher in the district was earning $68,000+ (which is at least $20,000 higher than the average salary in the county). Sometimes the answer to "Can I have a raise?" is NO. There still are a lot of hard feelings towards reachers for that move.
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Being in the LTL business you should be quite aware that all of our situations are affected because the Teamsters DID negotiate so that YRC could remain in business.


I would have no problem if some public sector things would be privatized. ON ONE CONDITION: The union stay and if a private guy is good enough, then he must be good enough WITH the union. NO union busting tactics. NO LOWERING OUR POLITICAL MONIES OR MEMBERSHIP. The numbers are to important and prevent alot more tax costs than they may create, IMO.

FAct: Right-to work states pay less. That, in turn, makes more welfare and bankruptcies ending in business having more power than the majority........and when business has more power than the workers, imo, it creates more welfare because then they lobby for things so they don't have to pay and shove it off on those who can't, like me.
 
I believe this forum needs a little help.Im going to add.That in all my years of working ltl.I have been better off in the Teamster represented job that I have had for over 15years.I have worked non union ltl jobs.Im not going to knock you guys that are not union represented.I cant honestly say that your non job isnt or is better than what I have.It all depends on what you are used to and how much guff you put up with from your management and co-workers.Ive noticed that all non union or just plain old truckdriving jobs havent progressed very well in wages and benefits.So if you nons like that.Then who am I to tell you any different.I just know that there is better jobs out there that are union represented.Again im not making statements like the latter to just agitate and ridicule your non union represented job.

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I'll be the first to say that if it wasn't for the unions none of us would be making near the money we are today. I have only had one union job in my life, it was in the IBEW. Back in 1981 my opinion is that the economy was even worse than it is now and not nearly the amount of social programs dealing checks out to anyone that applied. Unemployment was six months and then you had better take any job you could find, even if you thought it was below you if you wanted to eat. The large national company I worked for didn't want to take anything from us. They just didn't want to give us the amount of raise and the extra personal days the union ask for. After a few months of a strike that many of us knew was not in our best interest we got what the union had fought to get, but along with our 3% raise and 2 more personal days 4,000 of us got our pink slips and another 5,000 got notice the factory would be closed within 2 years. That's my passed experience with a union and I wonder if the leadership still thought they did the right thing when they were out of work too. That is unless they stole enough to get by on. I do agree with you about one thing, this forum needs some help. This stuff that's being thrown around on here is almost funny . You say you have been both a bro and a non. In the 15 years as a bro, how many years total have you been laid off? Unless you're with ABF or UPS freight I can say pay wise my non job is most likely better than what you have. I have also noticed that even though we didn't get a raise for a couple of years we didn't have to give back any still to see a large number of our employees put out of work. I almost forgot to add that with 31 years in ltl I have never missed a days work that I didn't choose to miss. Bigtruk no one has to make any statements on here to ridicule your union represented job, enough union members themselves do that. you should be the one that is agitated. Not at me but at your leadership, getting rich as the jobs many good people have had for years go away. Oh yeah my wife had 10 years at CF union didn't do a lot to help those people.
 
Gideon129 said:
your statement shows you've either never worked for a union company , or you didn't stay there long enough to hit top rate.
i work for ups freight and make almost 5 dollars a hour more as a city driver then fed ex freight,and i pay 21 dollars a week for my 5 person family on my insurance.
which is about 1/3 of the cost a fed ex city driver pays for his 6 person family.

now i'm no pro union whipping boy but as far as pay ,health care and retirement there is no comparison really, a union company is better.i mean how many non union outfits have a pension? zero thats how many.most are barley breaking the 20 a hour mark where as the union outfits are over 26. some non unions companies don't even pay overtime till they have over 55 hours a week....
but we have other down sides that we learn to work with, "6 month internet course educated supers,sub par equipment,not as much flexibility" .

equipment, work conditions are two of the big ones that are better ,at least at fed ex and OD . i cant speak for all the other union places but at ups there is a lot expected of us, and we are constantly rode hard to reach that expectation. they get the cheapest junk trucks, and run them till the wheels fall off , some of our older body style volvo's have north of 4 million miles on them when the motor blows they just pop a new one in and send it back out as long as the body isn't showing rust.

as far as the health care quality level ,in april of this year i had reconstruction surgery on my left knee all 3 ligaments were tore. it cost me a total of 112.00 out of pocket from my first dr appointment to the last day of therapy .
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my union time was ibt local 519 Knoxville ,tn usf Holland and ups freight.
 
Sorry but if you support your brotherhood you support Obama.............. Can't do it!! Won't do it!! Morale does suck.... Union won't change that THERE MORALE SUCKS TOO!!
 
Just so everybodies clear, not all union jobs are giving back wages. Although that's been the trend the past few years in LTL because of declining membership numbers, it's not necessarily the case in other Teamster represented business. Obviously, when your base shrinks, your gonna have less bargaining power, which is why we're all better off with a bigger base. Otherwise the door is open for these companies to take from you, to pad their investors/shareholders pockets. Cutting linehaul operations for company employees is just the start IMO. When they figure that fat is trimmed to the bone, they'll come after those "safe" city jobs.
My first union represented job, in the grocery business, is currently negotiating a new contract right now. So far, they are getting atleast an 18% pay INCREASE over the term of the contract. Although, there IS contention on healthcare changing because of Obamacare. but, they are also self insured
 
MOMONEY! said:
Sorry but if you support your brotherhood you support Obama.............. Can't do it!! Won't do it!! Morale does suck.... Union won't change that THERE MORALE SUCKS TOO!!
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How is being union supporting Obama or any political party for that matter? You listen to too much talk radio.
 
yrc-atm said:
How is being union supporting Obama or any political party for that matter? You listen to too much talk radio.
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Because the Union always backs liberal Democrats? That is a fact. I know they say the dues are separate from the political money,but Unions as a group always back liberal Democrats.
 
We have a hard time getting enough full time guys where i work. They are even offering pt dock casuals opportunity to train for cdl's.
It's never incredibbly slow here. I think they only EVER had one tear ,maybe 2007 or 2008 when they had an official layoff according to contract rules...less than so many hours/week.

We have about 100 guys here. About 30 are terminal to terminal road drivers....The rest are city/ dock and we have a bunch of pt dock workes who are additional.

The bottom 7 or so road drivers get slow weeks between Thanksgiving and Easter. But only once were less than 5 people laid off, maybe in NP history at our terminal. Laid off is something like working less than 2 days/week. For so many weeks, is my geuss.

The city/dock guys have some slow weeks the same time of year. But it's never for very long. We have less than 10 extra board on-call city guys, the rest are guarenteed 40 with bids.........The road and city extra boards are on call and that's the guys who get slow work in the winter....but it only got trully slow when this economy fell apart and it was only during winter......and less than 5 got laid off for less than 3 months if i remember correct.

We have the number one and sometimes number 2 Operating ratio in the New Penn system and it's plenty busy here most of the time..............if anybody with a decent work and driving history really wants a stable job this would be the place to come....the only instability is big, YRC owns us.......but the best time to start here is Easter. FOR YA NEED ABOUT 5 MONTHS WORK TO BE PUT ON THE SENIORITY LIST. Plus alot of dock time will be a part of the deal till ya move up the list.
 
fartknocker said:
Because the Union always backs liberal Democrats? That is a fact. I know they say the dues are separate from the political money,but Unions as a group always back liberal Democrats.
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I think guys told me the unions backed Reagan, Matter of Fact is the union Reagan was notorious for busting even backed him.

HOFFA senior didn't exactly back Bobby or JF Kennedy.....it was a feud.

Ask sharpshooter what he thinks about Obama.LOL.

I think lack of member participation is why we end up backing who we back.

It's the same problem with why alot of guys don't join....Lack of willingness to participate.IMO.
 
fed ex freight has a pension fund.set up by fed ex.no money out of my pocket,take with me when I leave.i was told years ago by union workers that if they have less members they will not be able to pay benefits,i may pay more for insurance,but I make more than most union drivers,ups is a stand alone union, they did the right thing getting away from the pension funds to take care of there people.i expect to pay for my health care premiums,i was told years ago to save for old age,nothing is free,they owe you nothing when you retire,unless you have what was promised to you by ups.
 
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