Unions may escape Obamacare

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JIM BOB, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Well-Known Member

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    An awful lot of people work for insurance companies...I guess they'll be standing in the welfare line soon, with the coal miners.
     
  2. autocar65

    autocar65 Local 767

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    Here we have a President who seems to be able to get anything passed and get it passed fast without much consideration of the bill. And should any Conservative attempt to call him on the carpet for it, that Conservative gets brought down not by the Democrats but by the old bulls of the GOP.

    Someone explain how this is politically logical.
     
  3. Starkravinloon

    Starkravinloon Hero's Falling At Home

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    That's why younger,educated minds will never make any changes toward honesty to the people, until all these "bulls" are removed... They have established the way things will be.. Get rid of the old regime, you have room for improvement....
     
  4. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    That's why I despise people like Juan McCain and his likes. They put their finger in the wind and see which way public opinion is going, then jump on board. The old guard needs to be removed before they get the opportunity to corrupt all of the younger Reps. At this point, it becomes generational corruption and dishonesty..............and I'm tired of it. We need to clean house.

    I'd reach across the isle all right, with my right hand....................and then drop them with a left hook. There! I reached across the isle. lol
     
  5. Toby

    Toby Well-Known Member

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    Third Party
     
  6. Northern Flash

    Northern Flash Piss on our Flag, get a boycott against you.

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    Yep. I'm heading in that direction. The Juan McCains of the Republican Party have turned against my beliefs, and they keep corrupting the original values of the newly elected officials and I'm tired of it. The newbies go to Washington with a set of values, and because of old timers like Juan, they are brow beaten until they fall in lockstep with the old guys. People like Juan have too much influence within the party because the newbies are afraid to go against him and his strong arming tactics. So yep, I'll vote for a third party.
     
  7. Starkravinloon

    Starkravinloon Hero's Falling At Home

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    That's exactly what they want you to do... Go to another party and take 20 years to affirm another... The other parties aren't strong enough to give the Dems a run so you just cased your vote for the Dems and cancelled out a good Conservative.....I'm sticking Republican, just being wiser... Be wise too my friend, not angry.. They get you angry, they just won..
     
  8. RickyRicardo

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    If everybody that said that voted their heart I think there would be more of us than anyone realizes. But the realist in me knows that will most likely never happen, leaving us with the status quo.

    I may be among the minority that doesn't blame Ross Perot for "ruining" the election. The Reps were (and are) dropping the ball on what the voters expected, leaving an opening (of their own doing) for an opportunist to step in. I wasn't a Perot supporter, but his supporters were largely voters disenchanted with the GOP, but couldn't bring themselves to vote Democrat.
     
  9. Starkravinloon

    Starkravinloon Hero's Falling At Home

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    You're right Rick, every decent person in the Republican Party would have to change at the same time.. Remember what MLK said and it makes a lot of sense,,,There Is Strength In Numbers....
     
  10. sharpshooter

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    But isn't that what 8% in VA did, which cost the conservative to lose by 2%?

    If the dems started an occupy wallstreet party, we could all vote for them to split the Dem vote, so the Republican wins...maybe that would work...it's worth a shot..lol
     
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  11. Stoney

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    Hmm more hypocrisy from my precious unions. The demeen the so called special deals between Big Business and the GOP. But yet it's ok them to get special deals?
     
  12. larmar

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    The provision that was exempted required Union plans to pay into a reinsurance fund. Since increases to Union plans only come when contracts are negotiated, where would you like the Union to take the money for the reinsurance? The company isn't required to pay the Union health and welfare plans additional money that wasn't negotiated.
     
  13. SuperCourse

    SuperCourse Someday You'll Hate Amazon Too.

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    Consider this, there are also a lot of disenfranchised democrats out there that feel exactly like a lot of disenfranchised republicans, they're looking for an alternative. I for one will be voting Libertarian, can a Libertarian win, no not yet, but I can no longer in good conscience support either of the existing partys. They are too entrenched and each caters to the needs of their own special interest groups at the expense of the middleclass. A pox on both their houses.
     
  14. larmar

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    The US is a guided democracy of and for the 1%. The only alternatives is moving to Costa Rica or prison. Guided democracy - Ask.com Encyclopedia
     
  15. RickyRicardo

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    Now it's Costa Rica? In another thread you were telling me China was the number one location for worker's rights. Why are you here if such wonderful opportunity lies in these other nations?
     
  16. larmar

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    My post said, "The US ain't all that" when it comes to mocking people with "communist" or "socialist" But if you want to continue to take things out of context far be it for me to stand in your way.
     
  17. SuperCourse

    SuperCourse Someday You'll Hate Amazon Too.

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    Those are pretty extreme alternatives to merely voting Libertarian, you're weirding me out.
     
  18. larmar

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    Choosing Libertarianism is like swallowing a tapeworm to lose weight instead of diet and exercise.
     
  19. dcmilkwagon

    dcmilkwagon Armed, not a victim

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    Better than cutting your brain out to become a democrat..............
     
  20. larmar

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    What happened to your old avatar? He He

    . . . and I thought you had me on your ignore list? :)
     

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