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I remember those days BusterNite.
I ran one weekend around Christmas when our road drivers took time off.
Its a turn now Rochester to Richfield Ohio.
When I did it I had to take hours for rest in Richfield.
Man times have changed thats a big 10-4 driver!
 
Apostolic said:
I remember those days BusterNite.
I ran one weekend around Christmas when our road drivers took time off.
Its a turn now Rochester to Richfield Ohio.
When I did it I had to take hours for rest in Richfield.
Man times have changed thats a big 10-4 driver!
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Yes, times have changed Indeed. Hey should'nt you be getting ready for work or preparing your pre trip safety speach??
Just kidding, Have a great SAFE day.:1036316054:
 
Apostolic said:
I remember those days BusterNite.
I ran one weekend around Christmas when our road drivers took time off.
Its a turn now Rochester to Richfield Ohio.
When I did it I had to take hours for rest in Richfield.
Man times have changed thats a big 10-4 driver!
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Apo my friend, I surely didn't forget you. You started driving with a wagon and a horse named Penny.
 
I came along with the three stick shift Macks. Real smooth ride!!! :hysterical: No power anything. At McCleans Trucking we even had some old gas jobs too. Those were the days. I even remember the drag lines they had down in Newburg. Which is now Con-Ways barn. Some of the younger guys wouldn't have a clue what a drag line was. It was the way to move freight though for years.
 
I had one thought when those old (B) model Macks were taken out of Overnites system.
And that was "OL happy days"

What lame design for a tranny.
Talk about un-safe trying to shift through the steering wheel is not my idea of a very safe manuver.

Duplexes were bad enough but the triplex now who ever designed that should be brought up on DOT charges,and have their design license taken away for life.

The other beauty was the (R) model Mack you had to stand your left foot out on the drivers side fuel tank to see around the fairing so you could back into a tight dock spot.

One more un-safe action,steering with your right hand holding the door open with your left arm,and standing on the fuel tank.
Ah yes the bad old days I for one am glad we don't have any power units like them Macks anymore.

If we still had those old Macks when UPS was looking to buy us out they would of said no way do we want to deal with that dangerous outfit!!!
 
It was a very tough job back then. Not every place had a dock or forklift and don't even think the thought of the company buying you a pallet jack or two wheeler, it was a dream away. Thats why when a newbie whines about how tough they have it.....I just smile and walk away. I may complain about the condition of the equipment now and the way we operate things, its because we suppose to be a elite freight company now and not some hayseed fly by night outfit!!! Which in a strange way, mirrors yesterdays history.
 
Yeah I here you hugnlug,and I felt your pain back in the bad old days of freight handling.
I also tell the newbees.

Hey I started in this LTL trucking business before the invention of the pallet.

There were skids but they were only used for banded stackes of sheets of paper.

We used johnny bars,and lengths of pipe to move heavy equipment.
We also had the old piano works in a town just east of here.
Moving pianos in crates,very dangerous.

Oh my the tails I could tell.

Almost every load was on the floor.

Yes sir these were the bad old days.

No DOT hours of service back in my first city driving days.
7AM to 10,or 11PM was a normal day.

That got real old working under some of those conditions.

The only equipment to unload was a hand cart,and a set of rollers.

All the young-ins say what the heck are you talking about old man?

They totally can not relate to any of these bad old freight hauling days.

So I say back to them stop your whinning you don't know how good you have it now.
 
Apostolic said:
Yeah I here you hugnlug,and I felt your pain back in the bad old days of freight handling.
I also tell the newbees.

Hey I started in this LTL trucking business before the invention of the pallet.

There were skids but they were only used for banded stackes of sheets of paper.

We used johnny bars,and lengths of pipe to move heavy equipment.
We also had the old piano works in a town just east of here.
Moving pianos in crates,very dangerous.

Oh my the tails I could tell.

Almost every load was on the floor.

Yes sir these were the bad old days.

No DOT hours of service back in my first city driving days.
7AM to 10,or 11PM was a normal day.

That got real old working under some of those conditions.

The only equipment to unload was a hand cart,and a set of rollers.

All the young-ins say what the heck are you talking about old man?

They totally can not relate to any of these bad old freight hauling days.

So I say back to them stop your whinning you don't know how good you have it now.
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I haven't been in the LTL business as long as you...so, I just want to know what the heck is a Johnny bar? What company did you start out with?
 
I hauled plumbing ,and heating supplies in the very early 60's.
I got my first LTL Teamster job in 1966 at Eazor Express.
$3.30 per hour,but even back then it was time and a half after 8 hours per day in the NMFA contract.

A johnny bar is a long piece of hard wood with a steel lip at the bottom,and two small iron wheels behind the lip.
We had to put the lip under what we were going to move.
Then pry up one end of the object,while pushing the other end by hand or with a fork lift.
Some times the equipment we had to move was so heavy two guys had to pull down on the johnny bar while the forklift pushed.
There were other times that we used the johnny bar,and had to keep putting short length of 1/2,or 3/4 inch Diameter pipe under the crate or equipment,and push it along the dock to our trailers.
These manuvers were very,very dangerous.
In that you could have your foot crushed even waring steel toed shoes, if you weren't watching where you were going.
Or if something slipped which wasn't uncommon back in those days.

Like I say the tails I could tell about these old freight handling days.

Looking back,I sometimes wounder how I made it this far in one piece?
 
Apostolic said:
I hauled plumbing ,and heating supplies in the very early 60's.
I got my first LTL Teamster job in 1966 at Eazor Express.
$3.30 per hour,but even back then it was time and a half after 8 hours per day in the NMFA contract.

A johnny bar is a long piece of hard wood with a steel lip at the bottom,and two small iron wheels behind the lip.
We had to put the lip under what we were going to move.
Then pry up one end of the object,while pushing the other end by hand or with a fork lift.
Some times the equipment we had to move was so heavy two guys had to pull down on the johnny bar while the forklift pushed.
There were other times that we used the johnny bar,and had to keep putting short length of 1/2,or 3/4 inch Diameter pipe under the crate or equipment,and push it along the dock to our trailers.
These manuvers were very,very dangerous.
In that you could have your foot crushed even waring steel toed shoes, if you weren't watching where you were going.
Or if something slipped which wasn't uncommon back in those days.

Like I say the tails I could tell about these old freight handling days.

Looking back,I sometimes wounder how I made it this far in one piece?
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I'll bet there were no weight limit's on single axles those day's iether....
 
Yes your right weight wasn't an issue.
But the longest van trailers were only 40 feet,and 13 feet high.
After deregulation of trucking vans started getting longer.
I remember they went from 40',to 42,then 44,and finally 45'.
Also at 45 foot the hight went to 13'6".
Around the late 90's they went to 48 footers,and from 96" wide to 102"
These first trailers were restricted to trucking routes by most states.
With heavy fines if they were caught off route.
Now I'm able to drive these box cars anywhere.
My daily route is done with a 48 foot trailer.
The next length was 53,in the east,and 57 out west.

YUP I've seen a lot of changes over the years,not all good.
But never the less trucking has really changed a lot since I first started.

Skids,and shrink wrap was wounderful inventions for freight handling.

Also power steering tractors are easier to drive.
Some of those old road beaters I drove,you had to stand up to get them turned into streets,and backing to docks.

Back in the day it was unheard of to have any women doing this type of work.
It was just to hard for any of them to handle the equipment or the loads.

Now you all see why I'm always calling this time in trucking history the bad old days.
 
Apostolic said:
Yes your right weight wasn't an issue.
But the longest van trailers were only 40 feet,and 13 feet high.
After deregulation of trucking vans started getting longer.
I remember they went from 40',to 42,then 44,and finally 45'.
Also at 45 foot the hight went to 13'6".
Around the late 90's they went to 48 footers,and from 96" wide to 102"
These first trailers were restricted to trucking routes by most states.
With heavy fines if they were caught off route.
Now I'm able to drive these box cars anywhere.
My daily route is done with a 48 foot trailer.
The next length was 53,in the east,and 57 out west.

YUP I've seen a lot of changes over the years,not all good.
But never the less trucking has really changed a lot since I first started.

Skids,and shrink wrap was wounderful inventions for freight handling.

Also power steering tractors are easier to drive.
Some of those old road beaters I drove,you had to stand up to get them turned into streets,and backing to docks.

Back in the day it was unheard of to have any women doing this type of work.
It was just to hard for any of them to handle the equipment or the loads.

Now you all see why I'm always calling this time in trucking history the bad old days.
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Apostolic tell us some stories of when they replaced the horse with the combustion engine:hysterical:
 
daddy 'ooo' aren't you the truck load of laughs.

I started in the trucking business in 1963,not 1863.

Back when some commercial trucks when some motors were still using gasoline.
They had air tires not hard rubber.
But there were no trucks that had power steering.
Back when it took a strong man to be a truck driver,whimpy littile boys couldn't handle that type of work.

My very first job was working on a garbage truck.
$1.00 per hour,and all the free garbage you could eat.
Although with this job,business was always picking up.
 
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