We need a union and we need it now!

Discussion in 'Saia' started by Rollcoal, Feb 27, 2016.

  1. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    The right to fire without cause is the issue everything else I agree with.
     
  2. Redracer3136

    Redracer3136 BANNED

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    Ah, now it's "at will employees"....as stated before, the Govt has already mandated laws that prohibit wrongful termination and the courts, along with other Govt agencies such as the NLRB, constantly hear and rule on such cases. Although "at will employee" is still a legal term, the termination of an employee without legal merit is often unheard of...and the few that are usually get overturned by the courts.

    Now in your case, sounds as if you're all for the union protecting employees who would've otherwise been terminated from any other company in the U.S./World.
     
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  3. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    The culture at SAIA is union free Red. A union would never fly here thank God. We are treated fairly and with respect. And a very high percentage of our guys are perfectly happy. We don't need the parasite know as Hoffa leading us. Our CEO is doing just fine.
     
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  4. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    It's always been my issue with right to work. Hard is it really for a company to bring some to of reasoning for terminating an individual and the for the ex employee to prove to a nlrb that it was wrongful? Hell most people just walk away when they're penalized unemployment check. Your 2nd part I again agree with thru the grievance procedure.
     
  5. Redracer3136

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    Judging by the lack of union LTL companies vs the multitude of non-union LTL companies, I'm guessing that Saia isn't in that boat alone!!
     
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    Nah, in RTW states, if someone is terminated it's because they terminated themselves!! Companies don't "just fire people" for no reason, if that were the case then almost every employee would have union protection...sorry, it just doesn't happen.
     
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  7. troubleman84

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    Keep being naive to that. Textbook terms maybe true, but saying management doesn't have their picks is absurd.
     
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    Favoritism is everywhere, even in the union...
     
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  9. Maddog1121

    Maddog1121 New Member

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    YEAH CAUSE YOU KNOW YOU WOULD LOSE HALF OF YOUR INCOME. AND LISTEN HOW COCKY HE IS. ITS TIME TO FIX THIS DRIVERS. WE DESERVE BETTER. CANT EVEN PAY US FOR THE WORK WE DO.
     
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    Canadian Flyer Speedy Freightshaker #411

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  11. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    Difference is favoritism doesn't effect your paycheck in a union shop.
     
  12. Dick Dastardly

    Dick Dastardly Drat, Double Drat, and Triple Drat!

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    Actually, in Right Work all memebers don't have to be covered under a contract. Most all Unions typically negotiate as “exclusive bargaining representatives.” That lets them negotiate on behalf of all employees at a company, whether or not those workers want their representation.

    I think this not only let's them negotiate a better deal, but more importantly it prevents other unions from being allowed to come into a shop and and represent members who don't wish to join that particular Union.

    The catch is they're required to represent all employees not just members when it's all inclusive.
     
  13. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    No amount of voodoo can bring Hoffa Sr. back. Now if we can just get rid of his son maybe the Teamsters can put all that corruption behind them. I wouldn't bet on it though. At least his Daddy stood for something. Jr. is nothing but a POS. He's just a snake oil salesman trying to sell his defective product.
     
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    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    There Jr. is, getting ready to pack up and head to XPO.
     
  15. bigtruk_us

    bigtruk_us Well-Known Member

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    You are misinformed.You guys would have a contract bargained for you and voted on by all of you.Your pay would be negotiated as well as benefits and workrules.even rules for lytx dash cam functions.The only reason YRC pays less is because the prior president of the company(bill Zollars)extended the company into a bad credit situation.His vision was for the company to be the largest ltl and worldwide shipper.Instead of closing the doors the union managed to negotiate a deal to help the company gain financial footing and keep all the guys and gals employed.Basically Zollars spent way too much money and then the economy collapsing didn't help.We are at top pay minus 15%
     
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    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    A contract like XPO and FedEx has received? It will never happen their and it will never happen here. It's nothing more than a dream. Pure fantasy. The Teamsters have been exposed for what they are. A corrupt organization who's glory days have come and gone. Never to return.
     
  17. bigtruk_us

    bigtruk_us Well-Known Member

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    Because you say so Train?The facts of what is bargained for would be open for review to all those who are potential voters.If all the voters vote an agreement down then back to negotiations again.Of course Train you're in mgmt so you wouldn't have a say.Not arguing or bashing.
     

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