Well who do you think we need as President?

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  1. upsfreightdude

    upsfreightdude New Member

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    Whats it going to take to get us back on track? Tired of no leadership and the country in a downward spiral.
     
  2. The Best

    The Best Well-Known Member

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    I really cannot name a person who actually has the interest of the people "at heart". But then, when you have a Congress that only knows one word, "NO", what can one person sitting in the Oval Office actually do. I really believe that President Obama would have done a much better job had he had a Congress that he could have worked with. But from the very start of his Presidency, the Republican Party made it very clear that they had one goal, GET HIM OUT! Every elected official, local or federal, is there for one thing, the betterment of the nation. But the minute they take office, they sell their souls to the lobbyists and special interest.

    Who do I think "we need as President"? Not Trump, that is damn sure. Not Hillary either. Of the 3 I have to support Bernie. Is Bernie a "socialist"? So am I !!! Of all the countries that excel far above us in every aspect, they are the countries that are "socialistic". This crap about capitalism that we have been fed all our lives is just that, CRAP!

    Take a few minutes, watch and listen
     
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    Woody Sons of Trump

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    What's your solution.? ...cuss every libral town in the US is failing.
     
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    The Best Well-Known Member

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    I thought the topic was "who was needed for the next President" and I certainly am not running, so I do not profess to have a "solution" and I know a bunch more in the same shape, but they are claiming to have the "solution".
     
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    toilet paper Well-Known Member

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    How's that socialism thing working out for Venezuela? Our problem isn't capitalism is crooked individuals who have only their on interest in mind. We've complained for decades about wanting an outsider in the Oval Office now we've got a choice. Do we want Hillary who left those in Benghazi to die or Bernie who's never had a job other than being a politician or Trump who's spent his life creating jobs and risking his own money? You choose just be informed about why you're voting the one you're supporting.
     
  6. upsfreightdude

    upsfreightdude New Member

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    I personally like trump. Say what you may but this guy has a back bone and is not persuaded by the Washington cartel. I would like to see a wall and choose who we let in by the rules. It seems there are many who in the political field do not like him. Romney being one of many. Sorry but these guys had many chances and only got richer and more power. Seems to me their about to loose their special interest money and no longer have any pull. Bernie wants to give everything away @ our expense and Hillary lies so much she believes her own lies. Cant say for sure if Trump is the answer or not but ill take my chances with him and if he dont work out at least we tried to change the old stinking thinking. It amazes me how these people for years had the chance to secure our boarders and did nothing, now all of a sudden they have these " wonderful plans". Thats just my opinion on this.
     
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    The Best Well-Known Member

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    With people like Trump's supporters, who cannot see farther than the end of their noses, we deserve Trump. I really could care less, being an old man with not too many more years left upon this planet, it ain't going to make much difference to me who gets into the Oval Office. But during my lifetime, I cannot recall a Republican doing one thing for the working man. A Democrat got us S.S., a Democrat got us the G.I. Bill, a Democrat got us Civil Rights, a Democrat got us Medicare, a Democrat got us , got us, got us on and on and on. The Republicans has tried their best to put us back on the "plantation" and they are doing a pretty good job at it.

    Talk about Benghazi, you forget that under Reagan, the Republican's almighty god, who I hope rots in his grave, but under him over 200 Americans died in a terror attack in Lebanon in 1982, Oh lets forget about this. What was Reagan doing? Sleeping as usual. Reagan destroyed the labor movement in this country. Thank you Mr. Republican. When Reagan took office, this country was the world's largest creditor, 8 years later, this country had become the world's largest debtor and we ain't got out the the hole that Reagan dug yet. We did do a fair job under Bill Clinton but then along came another Republican and in 8 years, he really almost bankrupt the country. Now 8 years later, we are beginning to see some light. The Market has almost tripled itself, the jobless rate has almost dropped double and inflation has been held down.

    Go vote for a "business man". Trump is a fraud! The government is not a business, it is a SERVICE. The government is there to serve the citizens, not the citizens serving the "master" that Trump has his mind on being.
     
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    toilet paper Well-Known Member

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    "The Best" I beg to differ a sudden terror attack in the middle of the night and you're upset because he was asleep? What was his response, he put a bomb thru Kadafies front door. The debit has more than doubled under the current administration and as for the unemployment numbers they no longer count those who've been unemployed for over 3 years. Bill Clinton did do a pretty good job with a Republican led house and Senate that held his feet to the fire. Our current house and Senate are sadly lacking the back bone to do the same. Our elected officials on both sides are to blame for this mess we're in today. If we continue to vote the same way and expect different results we are fools.
     
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    upsfreightdude New Member

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    upsfreightdude New Member

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    If it doesn't matter to you then whats your point old man. The two dingles running for the Demon side are only concerned about their own gain. You will never convince me any different. I've done democrat for years and now they gone to hell in a han basket. Like your post and enthusiasm thou. And by the way the trump supports didn't bring this great nation to its knees these past almost 8 years your friend and his cronies in the white house are responsible for that....Gotta go to work looking forward to hearing from you.
     
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    This "old man" probably forgot more than a young squirt like you will ever know. Matter of fact, I never did like conversing with someone who loves to show his lack of intelligence. So, have a good day. But I will leave you with some solid advice, although it is very doubtful that you will take it. From John F. Kennedy:

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    My father always told me that all businessmen were sons of bitches, but I never believed it till now. -- (Comment made 10 April 1962 in reaction to news that U.S. Steel was raising prices by $6 per ton, right after the unions negotiated a modest new contract under pressure from JFK to keep inflation down.)

    John F. Kennedy, "A Thousand Days," by Arthur Schlesinger Jr. [1965]
    35th president of US 1961-1963 (1917 - 1963)

    http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/36888.html
     
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    Woody Sons of Trump

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    Your so smArt....tell us more !
     
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    Reagan didn't destroy the labor movement, public sector unions did.
     
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    upsfreightdude New Member

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    No disrespect calling you an old man but that's what you called yourself in your post. Sorry your not able to face the truth and the years have seared your one track mind. Cant take the opinion of others then maybe you should drop out of conversations you dont agree with. You would think by now you would have learn the respect of others opinions and talk like an Older adult and not like some kid who cant control their emotions. I have no problem with your support of Bernie and you should allow me to support my candidate. And by the way my day is always good because I choose not to let angry people rob me of it. Hope yours gets better.
     
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    upsfreightdude New Member

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    It is my opinion that JFK, whom I remember well was a good President FOR THAT TIME and I do believe that he came from a business family( boot legging) to make a comment about business people would be hypocritical of him. Never the less 1960 policy's would not and will not work for today's problems facing our Great Nation. Laws have changed the enemy have changed and we didn't have Isis and the likes to deal with. Heck we even have to deal with the men in woman's bathroom. We have more crooks running this country than ever before who have no problem with selling out our nation for votes. Ronald Reagan was also fairly good but to keep using him as a guideline to steer the ship is foolish for the same reasons. We need to stop in our tracks and reevaluate were we are (at which is on a downward spiral) and change the old guard. We cant keep spending on everyone who wants to come here illegally and pay the bill to protect every nation under the sun including those who hate us. Socialism will not work due to our way of life and values as a nation. Just my thought.
     
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    You all are ridiculous and totally over looking the real powers of what president actually does. Most of things mentioned are actually the job of Congress. The president's real power is the fact that he or she is the top administrator for the federal government. The president nominates or chooses Supreme Court Justices, department heads, day to day Administration staff, top military staff, etc. Both candidates have problems but you need to look who they would put around them in order to run the government. We know Hillary would be okay with the environment, bad with Wall Street type stuff and probably mediocre with military stuff. She is a long-time government professional and is probably not going to pull anything drastic in either direction. We have no idea what Trump would do but considering who he has put around him so far, it doesn't look like the caliber professionals you going to get with clinton. That said, he is a businessman and hopefully business has taught him to properly vet and put professionals around him. My main concern still is that even though he's not a true conservative he will end up putting almost all right wingers into power. And that's going to severely affect things that I hold import like net neutrality, the regulation of financial industry and nlrb.
     
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    Also, things really aren't that bad. Yes some people are long-term unemployed that has serious effect on their future health amongst other things. We need Congress to act to do something to help these people get retrained or at least have them do something to earn a living. The finances of the country are in decent shape and the debt right now isn't a huge deal because our super low interest rates. The real problem is we're in a transition period right now and those on the other end are getting the shaft. And that definitely is not a good thing for the country. We also need to spend quite a bit more on our infrastructure and education to be competitive with other countries. But again, this is mostly in the realm of Congress. If you really don't like either candidate, just don't go for it one of them. But do make sure you vote for your local state and federal Representatives because they're the people that actually affect your life
     
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    upsfreightdude New Member

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    Bubs with all respect to your positive out look I have to ask you Do you have your head stuck in the sand? 19 trillion deficit , E-mail scandals, foreign money pumped into the "Clinton charity fund" 2nd amendment attack on guns, open boarders for anyone including Isis, Jobs going oversea's, Military cut to the point we are stretched to thin, Radical Islam terrorist and the list goes on and on. We better get cracking or were not going to be the good old U.S.A as we know it. As far as the President goes this guy has used more executive power than probably the last 3 presidents. He does pretty much what he wants to when he wants to. Hillary has pulled off more deceit than anyone in history. Take a look at who she surrounds herself with. Crooks, crooks, and more crooks. Starting with the President. We need A backbone now.
     
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    Half those things are non issues. The other half are false. The military cut thin? You're joking right? We literally spend more than the next 10 countries combined. Email? Who actually gives a flying f***. Its just something to yell about. Isis? Short of another full scale invasion what else are we supposed to do? Add another trillion in debt to the 3 we already spent there? I know that the right lives to yell and scream about this president but they are the ones to blame for a food amount of this crap (holding a majority on congress). Also, the prez has used less exectuove actions than almost any 2 term president since the 19th century. If congress did their job, he wouldnt have to make decisions using his administrative authority. The usa isnt going anywhere and the same for your guns. Its just the rubes riling you up to distract you. Facts are hard i know but a little critical thinking and policy study goes a long way.
     
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    I couldn't agree more!!!!!! The Republicans have done everything within their power to prevent President Obama from being a President with accomplishments, but even with their opposition, President Obama will rank very high as being a good President. If the Republicans and Mr. Mitch McConnell had worked with President Obama just think what could have been accomplished, but oh no, these hypocrites would rather put their biases and prejudices ahead of the country.
     

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