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Hows your pay check cashing from Overnite!
TForce | what are some good reasons not to have the union at UPSF?
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ya should definetly ask LEO and his PRESTON pals at overnite[upsf] about PRESTON,that's where they came from,and boy did they sure steal & sucked enough out of there before bailing to head over to 'O',also ask him all about his wonderful tenure at RYDER/P.I.E NATIONWIDE,same happened there,ask anyone who worked at either,was'nt he supposed to be a 'turnaround specialist'Proud Overniter said:how's that union contract working out a preston and CF?
,so was JACK BRINKO when he came to CF before they went under! see in a month how being an 'at will employee & nonunion flexibility 'are treating you when Brown really starts to get things running
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I am out of the Rocky Mountains for MC and I am with you all the way. Cut in pay, way more restrictions, slower trucks and being told to be PATIENT and it will all get better!!!!! UH WHEN!!!!!steve5 said:
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when we say.........TEAMSTERS!greezy trucker said:
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stldude44 said:
The problem with ol' skeet is that he can't see it from his house so out of sight out of mind. If it don't effect his little dream world than it is all good. I would like to know the last time he sat in a truck in the middle of a blizzard without any place to even take care of natures buisness. But hey if it is good enough for the ol' skeet than why can't we all see his great and superior wisdom. Sorry my skull has not evolved enough to get rid of how thick it is. I am praying that the good Lord will help me see the light and go peacefully off int the abiss with you. Only unions have propaganda and lies, companies always tell the truth and have all of our best interest in mind. I will get it!!!
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Unity with blindness is a hard to accomplish. Those darn sticks seem better to beat each other on the head with than to actually find where we are going. But I am down with ya!!!!BUTTONMAN74 said:when we say.........TEAMSTERS!
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greezy trucker said:
YOUR RIGHT ON THE MONEY ABOUT THAT,now were is that darn lead pipe of mine again? DRIVE IT LIKE YOU JUST GOT SPRUNG FROM THE BIGHOUSE,HOTWIRED IT,AND STOLE IT,ONLY DON'T GET CAUGHT!
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ONLY UNIONS HAVE PROPAGANDA & THE COMPANIES TELL THE TRUTH,YOU MEAN apwa[brown]greezy trucker said:
is also telling the truth 
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lets see,the snack fairy,toothless fairy,apwa [brown] fairyBUTTONMAN74 said:
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's ,would'nt ESKEW be ashamed to have any association with em'Greezy Trucker
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I had to bite my lip to keep from laughing the whole time I was typing this. But you know it is true.:grinning-smiley-021 :grinning-BUTTONMAN74 said:lets see,the snack fairy,toothless fairy,apwa [brown] fairy
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thanks,BROTHER, the clown was making fun of my smiley face entourage,you believe it?a clown ,of all things,nobody messes with my little guys,nobody,especially nospickspin,or picknospin',or clairabell the clown',or was it 'tinkerbell the clown'greezy trucker said:
the:bigfinger: 's,see,had to sick the mean,tough little guys on em',they don't take no crap from a nobody corporate clown!BUTTONMAN74
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hey clown,p.s,these little guys are also TEAMSTERS OUT OF MY LOCAL,HERE'S WHAT THEY GOT TO SAY ABOUT apwa CLOWNS TALKIN TRASH ABOUT EM':ShakeHandsNah:BUTTONMAN74 said:
:bigfinger: :Die:the local made em honorary members,they did'nt want to join apwa, like the old song goes' cheer up, put on a smiley face'.Proud Overniter
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CFer said:
wow, sorry i hurt your feelings, but i would like an answer,
how's are those employees at CF, Preston, and all the other unionized carriers that shut down, how are they doing with their contract?
hows all those Ford and GM employees whose plants are getting ready to shut down, how are they doing with their contracts?
how about those airline employees and their contracts, i am sure bankruptcy court will look out for them
guess what, those union contracts dont mean crap if you dont have CUSTOMERS to pay your wages. and right now the CUSTOMERS are speaking with their wallets, Toyota and Honda plants are being built as US carmakers plants are being shuttered, the airline market needs another 1 or 2 carriers to shut down in order to again return to profitability, etc.
the unions and their members continue to think in a 1950s mindset while the rest of the world has moved on past them. its a GLOBAL marketplace today. economic darwinism is here, the weak die (CF, Preston, etc) while the strong survive. You can blame management if you want, but that just equates to saying unions carriers attract bad management...then its your fault for working for a company with bad management!!
so remember, that union contract that everybody loves to brag about, i doesnt mean squat if the customers arent paying for the goods and services you are offering. and if the union contract slaps on your employer wages, work rules, etc that makes your employer un-competitive, then you have written your own pink slip..
and before everybody does the typical teamster rebuttal (i'm a manager, i'm a suck up, i'm blowing leo suggs, etc etc etc), i've heard it all. i'm not in management, but i see how through history unions have failed to adjust to changing economies and have left in their trails bankrupt and shut down companies. its no wonder the % of unionized workers falls every year, its not the republicans fault, its not big old mean management, it not the chinese or mexicans fault....its their inability and unwillingness to adjust and change to the times....
so, i ask for a 3rd time, hows that union contract treating you CF employees??
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Proud Overniter said:wow, sorry i hurt your feelings, but i would like an answer,
how's are those employees at CF, Preston, and all the other unionized carriers that shut down, how are they doing with their contract?
hows all those Ford and GM employees whose plants are getting ready to shut down, how are they doing with their contracts?
how about those airline employees and their contracts, i am sure bankruptcy court will look out for them
guess what, those union contracts dont mean crap if you dont have CUSTOMERS to pay your wages. and right now the CUSTOMERS are speaking with their wallets, Toyota and Honda plants are being built as US carmakers plants are being shuttered, the airline market needs another 1 or 2 carriers to shut down in order to again return to profitability, etc.
the unions and their members continue to think in a 1950s mindset while the rest of the world has moved on past them. its a GLOBAL marketplace today. economic darwinism is here, the weak die (CF, Preston, etc) while the strong survive. You can blame management if you want, but that just equates to saying unions carriers attract bad management...then its your fault for working for a company with bad management!!
so remember, that union contract that everybody loves to brag about, i doesnt mean squat if the customers arent paying for the goods and services you are offering. and if the union contract slaps on your employer wages, work rules, etc that makes your employer un-competitive, then you have written your own pink slip..
and before everybody does the typical teamster rebuttal (i'm a manager, i'm a suck up, i'm blowing leo suggs, etc etc etc), i've heard it all. i'm not in management, but i see how through history unions have failed to adjust to changing economies and have left in their trails bankrupt and shut down companies. its no wonder the % of unionized workers falls every year, its not the republicans fault, its not big old mean management, it not the chinese or mexicans fault....its their inability and unwillingness to adjust and change to the times....
so, i ask for a 3rd time, hows that union contract treating you CF employees??
:rolleyes:
Have a little mercy. They are just teamsters and teamsters want a Be's.melfunkshun
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You're exactly right that UPS is focusing on going international with the freight industry. I seen an article last year on Yahoo that UPS acquired a trucking company in Britian 7 months after acquiring us last year.
Proud Overniter said:how's that union contract working out a preston and CF?
Just fine wise guy. I haven't lost a day of work, or health benefits, or pension contributions since Preston closed. If you have nothing intelligent to add, then keep your thoughts to yourself.
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Proud Overniter said:
Glad you asked,pretty good ! cuz my pension and Health stayed the same....and fixin to enjoy my retirement thanks for your concern :smilie_132:
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Animo916 said:
so to what do you credit the falling % of the work force that is represented by unions?
so if you cant rebut my position, just tell me to keep my mouth shut? i thought this thread was about unions, and should UPGF go union? well, i'm just offering a differnt take, and you tell me to keep my mouth shut...maybe thatswhy you do need a union, because you dont know how to think on your own and you therefore need the union to think for you???
