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stldude44 said:I'm not sure if it would or not. I'm certain, though, that on here anyone making repeated attempts to belittle those they don't agree with aren't usually valued or respected among the other members especially when they display a better than thou/know it all attitude. You and the boys in Richmond must be getting a little nervous. I think you'll find it much easier just to accept the things you have no control over. It the UPSF workforce wants to join the Teamsters there's not one thing you can do about it.
Also, you never answered me in regards to why you seem to think that UPSF can't prosper under the NMFA. If it's a well managed Company the fact that it will be Union won't matter a bit. Your types might not be able to continue intimidating and browbeating the workers, but you'll have to get over that. Life will go on. Like I said, it'll be easier on your blood pressure if you just accept it. It's not your call this time, Mr. Mgr.
1. Again, I am not in a management, supervisory, etc position with Overnite...I have the ability to think totally on my own
2. If UPS has such good management, why do you need a union? Either its good or its not?
3. Not nervous at all. I totally trust the democratic process as long as it is fairly carried out without intimidation, violence, threats, etc.
4. Even though I do not work in the field, I feel my job security is a lot better by working for a non union carrier vs a union carrier. Even you can not honestly argue against that point considering the long line of unionized carriers that have fallen throught the years vs the non union carriers. After all, UPS must have seen something good in OVNT to make them spend 1.25 billion to purchase us.
5. I see how poorly other carriers have operated under the NMFA...again, if its so good, why has a national carrier not been organized in over 30 plus years? The only way Yellow/Roadway has made it this long is thanks to all the other union carriers going under.....thats a pretty poor way to grow market, waiting for your fellow union carriers to collapse instead of growing market through true competition...
Again, who pays for your union salary? The evil corporation? Stock holders? Nope, the customer. It makes no difference how great your union contract is, how awesome the pension is, if the customer is giving their freight to your competition because they can offer flexibility, better service standards, etc....then you can toss that contract, just as CFers, etc have had to do.....
Face it, UPS bought Overnite to compete wiht Fed Ex in the freight business and offer another service to the shipping public under the UPS umbrella. They looked at 16 carriers. They see how well Fed Ex has operated as a non union carrier. Why in the heck would they just sit back and let the teamstuhs come into Overnite? To pay 3 guys to do the job 1 guy can do?
Just look at the history of the teamsters, the numerous teamster carriers shuttered through the years, the corruption, the violence, and I go back to my original question....hows that union contract working out at CF and Preston?