What's going on with the company ?

Discussion in 'Holland' started by wongway, May 18, 2016.

  1. wongway

    wongway -15% Pay & Broke Pension Fund

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    SWEET !! between all the Supers & Driver's leaving , they should have a skeleton crew left by spring-summer !!:clapping:
     
  2. Snark Monkey

    Snark Monkey Well-Known Member

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    He left a couple of months ago for another job. Bobby took his place, then Bobby was laid off last week.
     
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    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    That's who I was talking about bobby. Good dude hate to see him laid off.
     
  4. skullcramp

    skullcramp Government Seal

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    they don't let me load griz, they have part timers for that. I'm cut when I walk in the door from my hard day a' peddlin:crushed:
     
  5. wongway

    wongway -15% Pay & Broke Pension Fund

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    Is Holland on the verge of "Nervous Breakdown " ?? Barn's all backed up with freight & running out of trucks & trailer's daily and supervisors & manager's & Driver's Quitting and barns sending FULL Loads of city freight to other sucker barns to break it for them , by so called mistake ?? Something has to change or just shut the doors period ......................................
     
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  6. Low-Rider

    Low-Rider Active Member

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    We left 3 board drivers at home tonight?
     
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    henry j Banned

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    To get the money, YRC will do another "revision" of the MOU 15% clause.
    This time the 15% number will stay, but it will be 15% that the employees get to keep.
    YRC gets the other 85%
    Problem solved.
     
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  8. wongway

    wongway -15% Pay & Broke Pension Fund

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    Everybody is just plain Burned out from 60-70 hour weeks and being yrcw whipping dog and there atm money machine !!!
     
  9. Snark Monkey

    Snark Monkey Well-Known Member

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    Where are all the load bars and plywood?
     
  10. henry j

    henry j Banned

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    Drivers are selling 'em to make up for the 15% they're not getting on the paycheck.
    The plywood makes great material for building ice fishing shanties.
    Question - Do YRC (Yellow) trucks still have the "strainer" or blocking device just below the filler cap on all the tractors fuel tanks to prevent fuel from being stolen? or sold? (sarcasm)
    Back in 1988, when I worked there, the tractors had no fuel gauge, and a driver couldn't see (even with a flashlight) down into the tanks to see how much fuel there was in the tank. Yellow furnished long, skinny wooden sticks at the terminals to poke down through the 1/4 inch dia. "strainer" holes to be used as "dip-sticks" to find out if there was enough fuel in each tank. Since they most likely still do not trust their own drivers, I suppose this high tech system is still in use to prevent their drivers from selling fuel to independents at the truck stops.
     
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    buffalobill Well-Known Member

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    I used to work for a company worse than that, no sticks. I'd find a pebble and watch for the splash, lol......
     
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  12. wongway

    wongway -15% Pay & Broke Pension Fund

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    [​IMG]Pawning off loads again !!
     
  13. Toby

    Toby Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget they are bringing in all the new driving school graduates. Those will be your "yes" votes.

    One thing most are not calculating is these guys. They are making in some places $18 + to start straight out of school. Plus half their probation time is with a mentor. Where else can a driving school graduate land a job like that with the H & W plan? Trust me they are banking on these guys for the yes vote.

    Now let's see what is a killer in this industry? Accident ratio, Damage Ratio, and Injury ratio. In some terminals that is slowly rising as these guys go on line and through probation. I know of a terminal where a prob had an accident within the 30 and Holland reset his probation... it was a minor poll contact, but in the old days his card would have magically disappeared before he even made it back to fill out the report.

    It is sad that Holland has become the training grounds for new drivers
     
  14. skullcramp

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    Couldn't agree more. Said the same thing in another post. And don't forget right to work coming in 2019. This is only a guess, but 40% of current employees (not counting new hires) will probably stop paying. The night ops dick is the go to guy for questions about right to work, and if the new hires see any of the old guys doing anything he might want to know about. Pretty soon they'll be asking about decertification. This seniority stuff sucks.
     
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  15. the5tolls

    the5tolls I should have went to college!

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    I couldn't disagree more!! I think management is reading this the same as you are and I think, IMO, you are all wrong. I think with the pension going down the toilet all the senior drivers are retiring, and many might not like what I am about to say, but those are your YES votes. All those old timers that talk NO all the time can not vote yes quick enough to make it one more contract to get to retirement. I know they will all scream that they do not but I learned a long time ago that the loudest ones are usually the most full of :shit:. I hear these new guys and yes during the first six months I agree they would vote YES in a heartbeat, but I also watch how quickly they become pissed off at the favoritism that is played towards the more senior drivers and how they are treated like second class citizens compared to them. They also catch on quite quickly to how the rules change every day, whatever benefits the company from day to day, these young guys are also not stupid they know that the freight will exist and have to be hauled no matter if the YRC group is up and running or not. So just a little warning to all of those who think the new drivers are an easy YES vote....don't bet your pension on it!
     
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    i don't think mgmnt needs this to read the tea leaves so to speak. Some senior drivers may feel that way but not all. And I think there were a lot more drivers at the last MOU vote that voted yes that won't make the same mistake again. And favoritism towards senior drivers? Oh you mean seniority. Sorry but that's the system we have. Go work at any of the nons if you want to self bargain. Not sure what barn you're at 5 tolls, where I'm at, some of the new hires are the ones that want the rules changed. Some not all, A few are working out just fine, they get it. Like I said mgmnt knows all about divide and conquer, its on page one of their playbook. I don't think they waste time lurking in here or posting. In one sense I hope you're right maybe some of the new hires will stand shoulder to shoulder with the old guys and call bullship when its warranted. One can only hope.
     
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    the5tolls I should have went to college!

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    AP is where I am at, and no seniority is not what I mean by favoritism! I mean things like giving senior drivers their home load and then when the senior driver complains they give him another load but the junior man has to take the home load even when he does not want it. I also mean things like the junior driver runs his ass off and beats the senior driver to their next stop and they still give the senior man the longer load, yes the junior man can file if he finds out at a reasonable time what is going on and gets the trailer number and such. I mean giving senior drivers choices of loads and forcing junior drivers to take loads they want no part of late in the week or on the weekend. I mean predispatching to benefit the senior driver which I was always led to believe was against the rules and yes I know there are no longer any rules that are enforced. I could go on, so please next time I use a word like favoritism please do not assume that I mean seniority because unlike most of the dispatchers and half of the stewards I do understand seniority I have been a Teamster since March 3, 1985 and I have figured out a couple things along the way.
     
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    Well you got me beat by 5 years toll. It sounds like you're a road man so I'll defer to your experience. I ran the road for 6 mos. and switched to the city side. Road just wasn't for me. Maybe another road man will echo your comments. I can only relate my experience. we have small group of new hires, say 6 mos. to 2 years that would agree with you. The system isn't fair, they would like a 7 am start, do switches or volume runs, be done in 8, or work 7AM to 9PM mon-thurs, take friday off, drive a freightliner, no dock work, (as one of them says it's demeaning) From that point of view, yup they're getting screwed. But once we get right to work, then they can tell the inbound ops what they're going to do not the other way around. As for now they're stuck on closing shift, but as long as they have their kneepads, the night ops dick will take care of em. But it's apples to oranges, if you're ever in MI I'll buy you a coffee on your way through. if I haven't been cut that is.:guinesssmilie:
     
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    You may be right but if I were an old timer and could retire, I'd cut the cord as soon as possible. Get as much of the pension you can before it's gone.
     
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    I agree completely, but an awful lot of Teamsters are "between a rock and a hard place". Too young to retire, too old to be looking for a new job.
    Too many years wasted believing the Teamster and CSPF line of BS about "a comfortable, guaranteed pension check waiting for you and your spouse". The money put into this guaranteed pension fund was required to be taken out of every check if you chose to work at a company under Teamster contract, no choice. If that same amt of money had been saved or wisely invested, it would be a different story for hundreds of thousands of retirees that now are facing extreme hardships. Thomas Nyhan, James Hoffa and thousands of other Teamster bosses have pension funds that ARE guaranteed - no cuts for them, EVER.
     

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