when this is over

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  1. truckchick1

    truckchick1 Active Member

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    As a good truck driver you can always find a job. It may not be what you want but it will provide a roof over your head. If these teamsters do not stand strong for what is right than we will all be back at $8 with no medical or pension. The country is struggling but that does not mean we have to give back everything we have been working for our whole lives. It would be different if the ohfl was losing money before all this started, but they weren't. This strike is over people being treated like crap, being threatened by management, people having to take a hugh cut in pay when you take away a pension contribution that has been negotiated in previous contracts. Ohfl was offering a $2.75 raise and you get to dispurse it how you saw fit right. Isn't that about what they are paying into the pension now? So there is no raise, they are just taking back what you already have and then they will give it back to you again. What great guys they are. I could go on for ever.
     
  2. imported_just asking

    imported_just asking Member

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    The last part of the letter th VP's sent out is from Western Teamsters Welfare Trust fourth paragraph down is what this says:

    "The Trustees provide benefits to the extent that monies are currently available to pay the costs of these benefits. Benefits are not guaranteed to continue indefinitely. Pursuant to the terms of the underlying Trust Agreement, the Trustees are vested with the authority to determine the benefits to be provided and the conditions of eligibility, and to make such changes, on the basis of actuarial principles, as they may determine including, if necessary, the termination of the Trust."

    So lets say, OHFL and other companies pay millions into the trust and the trustee decide they they no longer want to cover the retirees and "if necessary" terminate the trust, you are out of luck. Not because OHFL or other companies cut retirees off.

    That is one of the problems that OHFL and other companies have, like UPS, that they pay into Teamster H&W regardless of whether the member uses it or not. If you spouse has better H&W and you decide to go on their policy, the company still has to pay teamsters hundreds of dollars every month. Why is that?
     
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    Shifter, yes you make a very valid point. It goes both ways, if the company makes a threat or a statement but doesn't back it up, they will get run over by employees or unions. Both sides have made their threats/statments and both sides have stepped up the the plate and carrying out their threat/statements.

    The union is supposed to watch out for their members best interest and to take the members out on strike at this time and in this economy is not watching out for their members. Get with OHFL and nego a 1 or 2 year contract from today, I realize it's already 1+ year past last contract, and see how the economy is. I think that is why OHFL told Al 5 year contract is not a good idea at this time. It probably won't be the best contract but at least you live to fight another day. Right now, you are fighting but most of you can't afford to be around long enough to see it through.
     
  4. Underestimated

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    These two statements are contradictions. Is it Al or OHFL requesting the shorter contract? This is just more anti-union, pro-company propaganda for a shorter contract.:tongue0002: I can't wait to see your next angle.

    Our strike pay is ample. It is just shy of what we would bring home from a 40 week at OHFL. There are plenty of part time jobs to supplement that. Maybe the aren't driving jobs, but it's only for the short term.
     
  5. prplpride123

    prplpride123 New Member

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    You must be in WA, becuase I can tell you the weekly pay in PDX is not what I would call Ample. We are looking at losing alot, but the worst of it is no benefits.

    I am supporting the strike, and I am down there as much as I can plus working another job now too, but I am praying for a resolution to this strike soon one way or the other.
     

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