Where did the freight go!!!!!

Discussion in 'ABF Freight System' started by gravytrain1, Oct 13, 2016.

  1. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I believe that I pay 50% or more in taxes 'til all is said and done.
     
  2. SAC75

    SAC75 Well-Known Member

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    That's true when you include sales tax and such.
     
  3. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    I cannot believe people as intelligent as you want the government to control something as important as your health care. Look at veterans care issues compared to my health care purchased in the market place. These are same people who run usps. Long lines for drs and death panels. Sounds like a communists dream. No thanks
     
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  4. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    If you go on LDS trucking site under carriers...it says "looking for carriers".

    You own them now.
    Good chance that some freight which could've been yours is going there maybe?
    And where is Hoffa?
    Petitioning DC for equal pay for women? Or OT for salaried bosses?
    Don't worry. We got it.
     
  5. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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  6. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    My apologies to those on ABF forum. This should be in the politics section, not by non ABF guy on your room
     
  7. joes bar and grill

    joes bar and grill Well-Known Member

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    OK let's look at veterans health, no copay, no deductible, no maximum benefits, little (I think it is 8.00) to no prescription fee. I have been a VA patient for about 10 years, I can tell you without a doubt that things that go on at private hospitals won't and don't fly at the VA. There is nothing happing at ant VA that doesn't happen at any other hospital in the country. That said tell me your experience at the VA, not what you read or heard, tell me your firsthand experience.
     
  8. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    It's all right, Brother. You did start off right by complementing us by calling us "intelligent"
    Hey,.....that scores points in my book!

    I was spending a lot of time in the political forum, but I'm afraid it depresses me by arguing with guys who want to back up their facts with internet memes............Good Grief!.......

    You can find any "proof" you want on the internet for your argument.........but the "litmus test" there....is it logical and makes sense?..........seems to go right out the window........I prefer to vote.......and make serious life choices, for that matter,..........with my eyes,........not my ears.

    Just because someone is saying something in a LOUD, ANGRY voice.......
    ..does not make it true....
    You should research the facts. And apply the "litmus test" about logic.....

    Unfortunately this election, many people will vote based on anger, outrage , emotion and conspiracy,

    I prefer cold facts and logic.
     
  9. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    I have none. Only 2nd hand info
     
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  10. ABFer

    ABFer Super Moderator Staff Member

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    You are welcome here and I see nothing to apologize for. I appreciate hearing others views when they are cool, calm and collected.
     
  11. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    Most of my strong feeling about this topic come from listening to people from UK and Canada speak of the difficulties in getting quality care or even care at all in their respective countries. They then go on to say that is the reason they came to US. Freedom from gov run disasters. To be fair, I have also heard from others from uk and Canada who like their nhc
     
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  12. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    I have a deep rooted distrust of people in power and their desire to keep it at all costs.
     
  13. bad slavin

    bad slavin Active Member

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    The government running health care ? No thanks, they screw up everything they touch. Where are the shovel ready jobs from the stimulus package ? you know, to fix the roads and bridges . Where did that money go? what was it 880 some odd billion dollars ? They are not accountable for any mess they make, they just move on and make you pay more in taxes, no biggie. When the plan fails ,the planners keep on planning.
     
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  14. DeTrucker

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    Single payer is different than what Canada and UK have. Single payer is just Medicare for all. Hospitals and doctors offices are all private. I believe the Canadian and UK system the government owns the hospitals and employs the doctors.
    You say in a previous post you don't want to the government making decisions on your health, and I totally see where you're coming from. But right now the ones that are making the decisions on people's healthcare are CEOS whose only motive is to suck as much money from you as possible. They use your health and well being to accomplish this.

    I'm all for private enterprise and the private sector owning the means of commerce. But I also believe the crude ethics of business and profit should not be applied to healthcare.
    If you have a problem with the product of a company you can boycott them. When you have a problem with healthcare services you pay up or get sick and die. It gives too much power over people.
     
  15. upnorth

    upnorth Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Correct on the govt owning and running the hospitals up here.
     
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  16. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    A very good post!
     
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  17. DIRTFT30+

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    I don't believe by any means that ABF is innocent,as a matter of factI think whats going on is downright criminal! I been around long enough to know what a shape hall is and we provided the company with as many men they needed ! You never gave freight away! I feel that companies especially ABF hides behind that so they can give away as much freight as they want! ABF has turned down men that are highly regarded as excellent drivers by the national driving awards some have received after being turned down by ABF.One even headed up a haz-mat training program at his home terminal.
     
  18. 145'er 4 life

    145'er 4 life New Member

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    145 Portland hasn't slowed and we still have all of our 9-10 casuals working and I believe we have 49 on the board...
     
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  19. vongrimmenstein

    vongrimmenstein Well-Known Member

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    If you can't find more freight, all you have to do is pull over a Panther, Jb Hunt, Werner, or Fed-Ex trailer & pop the doors & wa la. Now you know where the freight went. C note say you will even find Pro Stickers on that freight, cause we were short handed that day because dispatch forgot to call everyone in. Trying to save on that OT.von.
     
  20. mitch0307

    mitch0307 New Member

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    Or it could be, at least in IND's case, that several drivers decided to take advantage of that little known local rule that allows an employee to have one unexcused absence every 30 days without receiving any disciplinary action from the company. When that happens, you're gonna miss pick ups, delay outbound loads, etc. just sayin...
     

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