Who is telling the truth to Dave and Ed ?

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  1. v for vendetta

    v for vendetta Member

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    A. The labor attorney who said fifty percent would cross in a week if they if they would just pay for his plan. B . The upper mgt. who blamed all their shortcomings on the union employees. C. The sales dept. who claimed to control all the accounts. D. Picket line crossers who promised that the others would follow ,But were not respected ever by their coworkers. E. The agency that said it could obtain good qualified replacements. F. The union employees who 12 months ago stated overwhemingly that certain crieria had to to be met to avoid a strike. Well guys my choice is ( F ) THE UNION EMPLOYEES ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO TOLD THE TRUTH TO Dave and Ed
     
  2. truckchick1

    truckchick1 Active Member

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    Couldn't agree with you more comcerned. We know that Ed & Dave are going to play games in the meeting tomorrow or else they would have agreed to the 3 day session that the union wanted to put this to bed.
     
  3. foster1662

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    This meeting is scheduled to start at 11am till ?
    if they break for lunch what can be
    accomplished in one meeting?
    More games by the company, how much more
    are they willing to lose.
    http://www.oakhanswers.com/nu/103108.pdf
     
  4. teamster in wa

    teamster in wa Member

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    This meeting may be just for show on the company side.
     
  5. truckchick1

    truckchick1 Active Member

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    I agree with T I W, if they were serious they would change their schedule to make it work.
     
  6. Shifterknob

    Shifterknob The Last Wordslinger

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    Ain't nothing gonna happen as far as an agreement until the outcome of the ULP charges are known, and maybe (probably) not even then. I just think David is so arrogant he won't ever back down, even if it means the destruction of his company.

    I mean... his dad's company. The one he was handed. That he is quickly destroying. Way to show your dad you care by tearing apart what he took so long to build up for you.

    I feel sorry for Henry having to witness this, I really do. I'm still going to help destroy it, of course, because Dave and Ed are not going to leave us any choice, more than likely. Doesn't mean I don't have a little compassion for Henry having to live to see it, though...
     
  7. Twinscrew

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    Henry was at the Auburn Hub twice today waveing at the employees (The Real Ones) and they were waving back saying we love YA Henry!! He dosent seem bitter he just cant do much to stop the Boys egos from destroying the company.
     
  8. Kiddriver

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    My dad said Henry is a good man. Why do his sons have to hurt my family like this?
     
  9. Twinscrew

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    Because they can is the only reason anyone can find
     
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    Henry is a good man... Dave and Ed are grown up spoiled little kids. They want it all. A pain in the *** money hungry lawyer told them they could have it all. They underestimated the strength when we stand together.
     
  11. Shifterknob

    Shifterknob The Last Wordslinger

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    Exactly. I've seen spoiled six year-olds show better behavior than David and Ed. They want what they want, and they stamp their feet and holler if they don't get it.

    Good thing the Teamsters Union is around to spank them on their butts and stick their noses in a corner!
     
  12. mrbg7698

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    How true! It's just to bad that the employees are the ones that need to suffer for the "brothers" spoiled, self servong greed! But alass soon they will be forced to close their doors, and we can all move on.
     
  13. Kiddriver

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    pain

    I wish that Dave and Ed could see my Dad with tears rolling down his face. He trys to hide it but I heard him one nite. I cant believe this happend to us. These owners of Oak Harbor Freight Lines are evil people.
     
  14. mrbg7698

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    Unfortunately it would not make any difference. the brothers have no conscience. They have been treating their employees like nothing more than numbers for quite some time now. They are certain that we can be replaced at a whim. I do believe that they are figuring out that it is not quite so easy as they thought it would be. Good drivers are not so easily to come by.
    At this point I believe that they would rather see the company go down the drain than admit that they were wrong. Pride, self serving, and greed will be their down fall. Even though they will try to blame it on the union, and union employees.
    We have all seen in the company dvd's, their service updates, and letters that they have sent out how they try to manipulate the information that they send out to work into their favor! Not to mention the blaitent lies!
    It is to bad that dave, and ed had to destroy this company that Henry, and the employees worked so hard to build. But all they care about are themselves, as they have quite clearly shown.
     
  15. screwemwthasmle

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    Greed

    The v.p. Family have all that money can buy,but they want to take from their workers, so they can have more. Dont let them have their cake and eat it too, they want to break the teamsters back,stand proud and be loud, or you will all look back on this and feel shame that evil greedy men took your pride!:1036316054:
     
  16. mrbg7698

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    nov 4 ohfl bs

    Just a few comments, and facts pointed out here.....
    November 4,2008


    Dear Oak Harbor Employee:

    In recent weeks we are seeing materials that are untrue and could be construed as inflammatory. In this letter, we want to set the record straight. (we don’t want any one to know how bad we screwed up, and we want every one to believe our lies, and not what you all have seen first hand.) Below is information we have sent, or are sending, to various people to help them understand what has happened and what is currently going on. You are receiving this letter so you have the same information. (we are going to try to fill your heads with more propaganda, and company lies to try to get you to cross the lines to work under our crappy conditions that are, or will be worse than before the strike).


    Oak Harbor Freight Lines is a less-than-truckload trucking company that has been in business since 1916 and is planning on offering premier transportation—service to our customers and good paying jobs for our employees beyond our 100thanniversary in 2016. (unless we break the union! Then our wages will drop dramatically, as will our company medical, and we will abuse you in any way possible).

    On September 22nd, 2008, the day the Teamsters called a strike against Oak Harbor Freight Lines, there were more than 500 employees represented by the Teamsters union and over 700 employees not represented by the Teamsters union. The union represents approximately 40% of or Oak Harbor employees. (but we would rather see no union representation, and we will shut the doors before we bargain in good faith).

    Oak Harbor has been negotiating with the Teamsters union since August 2007 (trying our best to take everything that we can away from our teamster members, so that we have complete control). In June of 2008 Oak Harbor asked the Federal Mediation Service to get involved in our negotiations. (we couldn’t buy off the mediator so that hasn’t worked too well for us). The Federal Mediator has been a part of the negotiations since that time in an effort to achieve an agreement with the Teamsters. The Teamsters union requested that Oak Harbor give them a final offer. Oak Harbor presented to the union, on September 22nd, 2008, our 8th contract proposal since the negotiations started. That proposal contained a substantial wage increase (but if you were to factor in all the things we were taking from you, and the items you would have to pay for it would actually be a pay cut), very good medical dental, and vision coverage, the current Teamster Pension Plan, and a provision that would have allowed the current Retiree Health and Welfare Plan to continue. (if you compare it to nothing at all, and it was at the expense of the dock workers limiting them to pretty much $0.20 into their pension with assurance that they would not make the class of utility A ever). Oak Harbor offered to meet with the Teamsters union on September 24th, 2008 to review the offer with the union. (on the November 7th meeting a union benefits specialist proposed a plan that was better than the company plan, and would cost the company less than their own plan, of which the company refused to even look at).

    The Teamsters our employees the opportunity to vote on that "Doc #8" offer; instead they called a strike in the evening of September 22, 2008 just hours after receiving the document and without asking any more questions about it. ( The union strike is not over economic issues, but a UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE STRIKE. Therefore this paragraph is a poor attempt to cast the strike as a economic strike, when in fact is not).

    Since the start of the strike, 124 Teamster represented employees have crossed the picket line
    and returned to work. All represented '"cross- over" employees that have returned to work, and
    have worked the minimum required hours each month, are receiving medical, dental, and vision
    coverage as well as pension and retirees health & welfare contributions set aside for retirement
    plans per an interim agreement with the union. (It fails to mention that a large percentage of this figure is the fact that the corporate office, and Boise terminal (which is a right to work state) are a significant percentage of these figures).

    Since the Teamsters called the strike on September 22nd, 2008, Oak Harbor has moved approximately
    68,000 shipments for over 11,000 customers. (which if you do the math is a little over 43 shipments per day, per terminal . Real impressive considering that Portland alone averaged between 800 and 1200 bills per day before the strike started). 31 out of 33 of our terminals are staffed
    entirely with Oak Harbor employees. Of the 14 Teamster represented Terminals, 12 are staffed
    with Oak Harbor employees, most of whom are Teamster represented employees from those terminals who have crossed the picket line. (with the drastic reduction in freight levels the handful of employees that have crossed is all that are needed).
    In the two remaining terminals we have hired a subcontractor to provide drivers for the work.
    The subcontractor has kept most of the same drivers on the work over the entire course of the
    last 6 weeks and those subcontractor drivers have the skills necessary to provide good service to
    our customers. ( FALSE – go to youtube.com, and do a search for “oak harbor freight lines”, and see for your self). The subcontractor performed an audit of their employee's files and assures us
    they are DOT compliant. (is that why few, or none of these have had a drug screen, and inside sources tell us about a certain individual selling a drug screen mask)? There have been other ugly accusations made about this company and
    its owner. Oak Harbor has been assured the statements made about our subcontractor are false.

    Our current on time delivery percentage is 98% on time and we have actually reduced the percentage
    of shipments we deliver with damage notations by 18% over last October. (this is not to surprising when your freight levels have dropped approximately 70%)

    We have been diligent to continue operations because we have made a commitment to the over 1300 employees, over 800 of which are non-striking employees, to continue providing work and future work opportunity for our employees and their families. We also have a commitment to over 11,000 customers to continue providing the high quality service we have committed to them. (before the strike the company insisted on proving how much they did not care about their customers by missing pick ups, trying to run drivers with routes that were impossible to deliver because of routing, and not handing out deliveries until they were already late. But they some how do not factor those number into their “on time delivery” factors)

    We are investigating allegations that some individuals are intimidating drivers and/or are engaging
    in harassment. (there has been no harassment, or intimidation that I have witness personally. Any picketing has been done peacefully, and legally with in the rights of the union employees. However there have been false police reports made by OHFL, as well as some of the drivers that have crossed the picket lines. I did witness however a member of the security team put his hand on a teamsters chest, and push him back. This is not with in their rights!) We, again, encourage all of our employees and all employees of our contract company to be safe and law-abiding citizens. We are proud to operate in a country where both the individual's right not to strike and their right to strike is protected. We believe both the person who chooses not to strike and the person who chooses to strike should be able to do so.

    We hope you found this informative.

    Ron Kieswether
    Vice President of Operations

    :nutkick:
     
  17. mrbg7698

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    nov 15 ohfl propoganda (translated)

    November 12, 2008

    To our valued customer, we want to give you an update in some key areas. (here are some more lies in our desperate attempt to break the union).


    Business Progress

    In the last week, we have made some good progress. We are seeing our business coming back. Some of our large customers have come back and some of the existing customers that were giving us trial shipments have returned us to pre strike levels. We want to thank you for that. (although we have lost our largest, and most profitable customer (The Gap), as well as OLCC, amongst others).

    A couple of notable things from last week, the Salem, Oregon terminal opening went successfully. Congratulations to the staff for their exceptional work. In addition, the company is handling some charity moves in the Bend, Oregon area for Samaritan's Purse, a ministry founded by Franklin Graham that gives shoeboxes of Christmas gifts to kids all over the world. You can check it out at here. (we do not have much in the line of freight, and this helps us to look better in the public eye).


    Our Personnel

    Now would be a good time for us to review some of the things that we have to take into consideration. We have a moral responsibility to all our employees. (after ourselves of course) We currently have 1422 employees system wide. 440 of those employees are represented by the Teamsters union and are exercising their right to strike. 125 are represented employees that have chosen to exercise their right to cross the picket line and work, along with 113 newly hired strike replacement employees. We have 731 employees not represented by a union. We believe that continuing to operate our business is the best way to ensure all our employees can exercise their rights and it provides the best opportunities to maintain our business flow. (although our freight levels are so low that we have been running two people to a truck, and running trailers out with virtually no freight in them what so ever). Closing our business during a strike was obviously never an option. (but the way we arew going it may be just around the corner, because we simply are to greedy to bargain in good faith.


    Negotiations

    From the start of union talks our goal has been to negotiate a contract we believe will work for us into the future. With that in mind, we met with the Teamsters negotiating committee in federal mediation on November 7 where they presented to us a number of new proposals for our review. We are reviewing them now. (Lies such as this are what hurt us the most. We refused to even look at the union’s proposal)


    Retiree Healthcare

    It appears that one of the things that has been coming up is the issue of retiree healthcare. Our position is: Oak Harbor has paid to the Teamster Retirement Trusts over a million dollars in just the past few years for the coverage of eligible retired persons. The trust is governed by Trustees and it is the Trustees who manage this money paid to them by Oak Harbor. The Trustees set the rules regarding who gets benefits and when. The Trustees establish what will be the payments by participants. There are hundreds of companies that participate in this trust. Oak Harbor has nothing to say about the operation of the Trusts. Accordingly, our participation has been in the form of over one million dollars contributed in the last few years for benefits used by approximately 50 retired families. Our experience is that less than half of our retired workers take advantage of this program and most apparently believe it is too expensive for them even though Oak Harbor had paid into the trust substantial amounts. Oak Harbor cannot make rules for the program. Oak Harbor has done everything it has agreed with its unions to do and that agreement is to pay into the Trust millions of dollars. (of course many of them go on their spouses coverage, or the way health care industry is set up their spouse’s coverage is the primary coverage, as well as that in some cases the spouse needs to go to work to make up for the shortfall of income. Not to mention the fact that because of our greed, the families that have already retired saw an increase of around $600.00 per month)[/COLOR] One last point is that the Trust itself publishes the expectation retirees should have. The Trust's statement is: "No Plan participant should believe they have a vested right in these Plans or that the benefits of the Plans will necessarily be granted indefinitely." The Trust makes no guarantee of future benefits. In September 2008 we made an offer to the Teamsters that would continue retiree benefits. Our offer has not been accepted by the Teamsters. We have provided for the retirees everything we promised to them in our past collectively bargained agreement with the Teamsters. (The union offered a healthcare plan to the company which covered the retires, and did not punish the (class b dock workers) for a lesser amount that the company’s own plan, which the company refused to even look at).

    Summary and Thank You

    Unfortunately, some organizations that appear to be at least partially funded by the Teamsters union are suggesting our customers move their business elsewhere. They are attempting to spread inaccurate information and implying motives that are untrue. (of course these are actually union customers, and realize that we are trying to damage our employee’s lives by cutting every thing that we can from them to make them subservient so that we have total control). How could this possibly help anyone?
    For those of you that have been affected by the tactics we apologize and hope this communication helps you understand the impact this has on all our employees’ rights and security. (please go against your better judgment and ship with oak harbor).
     
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    (although we have lost our largest, and most profitable customer (The Gap), as well as OLCC, amongst others).


    I may stand corrected on this issue. It is to our understending that The Gap has sent a letter to the union stating that they are going to sever their ties with ohfl, but need toget the freight out of the system. This could be a plot by gap to get the teamsters to stop leafleting them for a short time.
     
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    From a USA Today article


    By Jayne O'Donnell and Mindy Fetterman, USA TODAY
    Remember those TV commercials where khaki-clad teenyboppers boogied to '40s swing music? Remember how you stopped to watch?
    And what about the West Side Story-inspired ad, when gangs in jeans fought gangs in khakis to Jerome Robbins' choreography? Remember how you stopped to watch?

    Remember The Gap when it was the epitome of hip and trendy, purveyor of the new uniform — basic jeans and T-shirts — for a generation that rejected "dress up" clothes for work and play? Its T-shirts were so cool that actress Sharon Stone wore one on the red carpet at the 1996 Oscars.

    That was then. This is now.

    "The Gap doesn't seem hip any longer. They simply market one color or one style," says shopper Pam Schmidt of Chandler, Ariz. "They're too preppy and sterile."

    After suffering declining sales since 2004 and a depressing 8% drop in sales during the five-week holiday season this year, Gap Inc. dumped CEO Paul Pressler on Monday after five years.

    Also this month, the company lowered its earnings estimate for the third time in six months. It will report fourth-quarter and annual sales March 1.

    Rumors are swirling that Gap Inc. (GPS), which also owns Old Navy and Banana Republic, will put itself up for sale, close stores and/or sell off divisions.

    "We would agree that it's fair to say that the apparel retail business has been, for many years, very competitive," said Greg Rossiter, senior director of corporate communications for Gap Inc. "We are re-examining Gap and Old Navy strategies. We're taking a look at merchandising, the products and everything that goes into" the stores.

    But many now wonder: Can anyone save the Gap?

    "This company has to emerge in a different format," says retail and apparel analyst Jennifer Black. "I don't know that it can turn around in the form it is in today."

    Tough options

    Banana Republic, with about 500 stores, is the bright spot in Gap's lineup. Its December sales were up 2%, compared with a 5% decline a year earlier. It's a higher-end retailer, a group that has done well recently. Old Navy, the lower-end Gap brand with more than 900 stores, has been struggling. But most of the focus is on what the future holds for the Gap brand stores.

    It could mean:

    •Closing stores. Gap has become too big for success in the fashion-forward part of the apparel industry, some experts say. The company has saturated the market with more than 1,200 Gap brand stores across the country. As a result, its goods don't seem unique anymore.

    Ken Nisch, chairman of the retail and brand consulting firm JGA, says Gap should close up to 400 of its Gap stores, but concedes the company will probably have to be taken private to do that.
     
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    Gap Trying to Make Money by Closing U.S. Stores, Expanding East

    Patrick Robinson can't make the Gap cool again all on his own. That would be like convincing the Pussycat Dolls to wear fabrics that breathe — not a one-man job. Robinson has spiffed up the clothing Gap sells, but they're still not selling as much of it as they need to, and their investors aren't pleased. So yesterday Gap executives held a meeting for Wall Street analysts to talk about how they're going to turn their brands (Gap, Banana Republic, and Old Navy) into ones consumers want to spend money on. Gap CEO Glenn Murphy said the company would strive for consistency in "product aesthetic." Also, they're going to stop wasting so much space, real-estate-wise, and put GapBody and babyGap products in adult stores. We know — store closures are shocking these days, but we are tired of stores that put the same pair of pants on seven different racks in attempt to make it seem like they are actually different kinds of pants.
    But proving that when one door closes, another opens, Gap plans to expand abroad with new stores in Greece and Moscow, and possibly China, India, or other places "east of France." Glad to see they're finally catching on to the profitability of Eastern expansion. It happened at about the same rate they realized their pre-Robinson khakis were dowdy. But hey, at least they're consistent.
     

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