NOT this retired old fart!Answer would be NO , way to many new hires ,that don't know any better and to many WIFE'S that wear the pants in family & don't work ,so they want the Husband to stay working no matter what , so they don't have to go back to work & ONLY like 1/2 driver's even take time to vote any more and then we got our RETIREE'S that want us to vote yes and stay working even if it's at Minimum wage and then we got the few old fart's that said last time ,OH I only got a few more years left , so it don't matter ! And plus we have NO union pride or brotherhood any more , every body is out for themselves only and you can see that now in the ABF cat-fights daily on T.B. , bottom line is ABF & YRC has won and has succeeded in having Driver's fight each other instead of fighting them !
Old? Fart?NOT this retired old fart!
And Yellow Corp did to Preston in May, 98. We closed 14 months later. Had we closed within 12 months, they would've had to dovetail us into Yellow Freight.I think ABF is where Roadway was at during the contract talks in 1994. How ever things turn out at ABF, ultimatly I see ArcBest spinning off ABF as a debt free independent Teamster company.
Just as CFinc. did to Consolidated freightways in 1996, and as Roadway Services did to Roadway Express in 1995. .
I think ABF is where Roadway was at during the contract talks in 1994. How ever things turn out at ABF, ultimatly I see ArcBest spinning off ABF as a debt free independent Teamster company.
Just as CFinc. did to Consolidated freightways in 1996, and as Roadway Services did to Roadway Express in 1995. So my advice to ABF Teamsters would be to vote no, and shut ABF down if necessary.
Imo, ABF as an independent Teamster company will prosper while ArcBest will fail without their profitable
ltl carrier, just as Roadway Services did when they spun off Roadway Express.
We have some snowflakes in our midst mulerDon’t always view our heated debates as fighting. Some on this forum get a little upset when they get what they dish out.
But if it helps to get a better contract so be it.
Over my 36 years in the Teamsters Union, one thing I learned after X number of years was, the only person who will lookout for my family, is me.If we are all one entity as Teamsters why is the West Coast pension not being touched in the Central States Pension is being dissolved
If we are all one entity as Teamsters why is the West Coast pension not being touched in the Central States Pension is being dissolved
Tell him the rest of the story. Where did the money go that the Western pension fund didn’t accept.Western States Pension Fund has not accepted a payment from YRCW since 2009.
Won’t happen.Far more likely they spin it off as a debt loaded company. They'll keep the rest debt free to set up for the future, and leave ABF buried in the non union's debt, to fail rapidly. That's what CF did. They gave Con-Way terminals and equipment for pennies on the dollar, and tanked CF. CF, as an independent Teamster company, saddled with debt from all the other divisions, had no chance of succeeding. Sad deal for a legacy carrier.
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Tell him the rest of the story. Where did the money go that the Western pension fund didn’t accept.
They used it to pay down the millions they owed for the non payment agreement.
I don’t know what they had or have I just know what they did.So, YRCW didn’t have the cash on hand that UPS did, to buy out of CSPF?