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Yeah right, if it was the other way around you would have them on backwards!What's confusing about that?
Yeah right, if it was the other way around you would have them on backwards!What's confusing about that?
If was the other way around they would be on backwards!What's confusing about that?
Could you repeat that?If was the other way around they would be on backwards!
Probably but I would put wager on itCould you repeat that?
I've got something right here that he can "secure"............on the second page our good old Hoffa says he wants to secure our pensions...............
The sad part is that he's still running the show because of people having their heads in their ass. And he'll still be there after the next election also.It's election season for them coming up so we're going to see all kinds of smoke and mirrors about how great he is and what all he is doing and has done for us. Those of us who don't live with our heads in the sand though it won't work.
The silence on this forum is for obvious reasons. Nobody wants to start a thread or even make comments because you get savaged by a few individuals who disagree with you. They can't converse or debate a topic, they always have to turn it in to personal attacks. So put the blame where it belongs.....directly on them. The silence is attributed to those who get on here and act like an *******.....and everybody sees it.Has this pension thing knocked the spunk right out of everybody? Somebody needs to start a rumor or something, let's get the blood boiling and the name calling going. We have to be able to come up with something better than ghosts to talk about. Just make something up even, like XPO is buying us or something....no wait that one is taken. By the way has anybody noticed how upbeat the Conway guys are about being bought out. I am guessing that not very many of them have gone through this before it sure never ends well for the drivers, but I suppose this could be a first.
The silence on this forum is for obvious reasons. Nobody wants to start a thread or even make comments because you get savaged by a few individuals who disagree with you. They can't converse or debate a topic, they always have to turn it in to personal attacks. So put the blame where it belongs.....directly on them. The silence is attributed to those who get on here and act like an .....and everybody sees it.
I've done my damnedest to keep this forum alive over the years, but I'm tired of getting attacked all of the time, with very little back-up from those who would like to keep it as peaceful conversations and debates, so I've said effit.
As I said a few months ago, they can shut this Holland forum down for all I care.
Holland forum is usually pretty slow and doesn't get much attention from me unless someone files a report. Once in a while I see a topic of interest as the last post on your header and I'll look around. Pretty much the same at New Penn. I don't usually go off on someone without instigation but I will give back what's dished out. There are more than one who like to follow others around for the purpose of giving them :: and they are the biggest crybabies when they get it back.Most of the Moderators on this site won't allow it within their forums, but for some reason it's allowed on the Holland forum.
Yep. A good debate always goes bad. And people turn informative threads into bitch-fests. With business being slow (except for you turds), most of this has turned to negative drivel. I can watch the news (or my Lions) if I want to be depressed.I enjoy a good back and forth debate, but I don't get on here to get into person attacks with other people. I'll get dirty when required to defend myself, but most people would rather not post, than to risk getting attacked. And the worst part is that those guys who get on here for a couple of weeks and **** everyone off usually disappear within a few weeks. (I could name several)
So they manage to shut down the conversations permanently, and they were only on here for a short period of time. Not that it matters, but the silence on here is because of them. Most of the Moderators on this site won't allow it within their forums, but for some reason it's allowed on the Holland forum.
I go with the latter.Due to the lack of Holland news.....what do you guys think about XPO buying Conway. Think it is going to be Great for their drivers or do you think they are going to get bent over and take it dry?
A Holland buyout includes yrcf, new penn, and reddaway. You get 4 companies and all that debt.......I'll put this into perspective.
Holland employees are begging for a buy-out because of the stagnation and how they see the company being run.
Conway employees apparently felt the same way.
So what makes their buy-out look like a negative? But a Holland buy-out would be a positive?
A Holland buyout would just be Holland.A Holland buyout includes yrcf, new penn, and reddaway. You get 4 companies and all that debt.......
If you research it you will see The debt is tied to all 4 companies as YRC Worldwide. You buy the whole thing or nothing. The banks and Zollars had to do it this way.A Holland buyout would just be Holland.