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[vetran peddleman]

They can't put strips on it. XPO strips are Red and with the location of the Hazmat placards that would be illegal

Hummm ! ...makes sense FBN, thx for the insight.

 

[icedriver]

They can't put strips on it. XPO strips are Red and with the location of the Hazmat placards that would be illegal

Where are you pulling this information from? Like the Rabbit says, blue stripes would've been illegal if this were true. And, what color do our trailers legally have to be to contrast with the white "poison" placards? Or what about the black rail cars that haul corrosives? There aren't regulations as to what color your equipment can be, although I bet the government would like to control that too.

 

[Fly-by-night]

Where are you pulling this information from? Like the Rabbit says, blue stripes would've been illegal if this were true. And, what color do our trailers legally have to be to contrast with the white "poison" placards? Or what about the black rail cars that haul corrosives? There aren't regulations as to what color your equipment can be, although I bet the government would like to control that too.

number 4 . White is the trailer color by adding a red strip, which is not painted on, can be considered a marking. Now Con-way spent money on making sure the blue strip was ok to use and then spent more money to put it on each trailer. I would rather see XPO save that extra money by not putting a red strip or all that other stickers Conway put on and spend it on more important thing like pay raises new eq and so on.

§ 172.516 Visibility and display of placards.
(a) Each placard on a motor vehicle and each placard on a rail car must be clearly visible from the direction it faces, except from the direction of another transport vehicle or rail car to which the motor vehicle or rail car is coupled. This requirement may be met by the placards displayed on the freight containers or portable tanks loaded on a motor vehicle or rail car.
(b) The required placarding of the front of a motor vehicle may be on the front of a truck-tractor instead of or in addition to the placarding on the front of the cargo body to which a truck-tractor is attached.
(c) Each placard on a transport vehicle, bulk packaging, freight container or aircraft unit load device must—
(1) Be securely attached or affixed thereto or placed in a holder thereon. (See appendix C to this part.);
(2) Be located clear of appurtenances and devices such as ladders, pipes, doors, and tarpaulins;
(3) So far as practicable, be located so that dirt or water is not directed to it from the wheels of the transport vehicle;
(4) Be located away from any marking (such as advertising) that could substantially reduce its effectiveness, and in any case at least 3 inches (76.0 mm.) away from such marking;
(5) Have the words or identification number (when authorized) printed on it displayed horizontally, reading from left to right;
(6) Be maintained by the carrier in a condition so that the format, legibility, color, and visibility of the placard will not be substantially reduced due to damage, deterioration, or obscurement by dirt or other matter;
(7) Be affixed to a background of contrasting color, or must have a dotted or solid line outer border which contrasts with the background color.
(d) Recommended specifications for a placard holder are set forth in appendix C of this part. Except for a placard holder similar to that contained in appendix C to this part, the means used to attach a placard may not obscure any part of its surface other than the borders.
(e) A placard or placard holder may be hinged provided the required format, color, and legibility of the placard are maintained.

 

[cdd2002]

Just move placards a few inches, problem solved.

 

[Fly-by-night]

Just move placards a few inches, problem solved.

OK well that cost money to do that and with that there goes your raise. So which would you rather have a raise or a red strip on the trl

 

[cdd2002]

I don't care if they have stripe or not. And I'm sure the raise is not based on cost of rebrand. They will give us the smallest amount they think they can get away with. If we actually get a raise.

 

[icedriver]

number 4 . White is the trailer color by adding a red strip, which is not painted on, can be considered a marking. Now Con-way spent money on making sure the blue strip was ok to use and then spent more money to put it on each trailer. I would rather see XPO save that extra money by not putting a red strip or all that other stickers Conway put on and spend it on more important thing like pay raises new eq and so on.

§ 172.516 Visibility and display of placards.
(a) Each placard on a motor vehicle and each placard on a rail car must be clearly visible from the direction it faces, except from the direction of another transport vehicle or rail car to which the motor vehicle or rail car is coupled. This requirement may be met by the placards displayed on the freight containers or portable tanks loaded on a motor vehicle or rail car.
(b) The required placarding of the front of a motor vehicle may be on the front of a truck-tractor instead of or in addition to the placarding on the front of the cargo body to which a truck-tractor is attached.
(c) Each placard on a transport vehicle, bulk packaging, freight container or aircraft unit load device must—
(1) Be securely attached or affixed thereto or placed in a holder thereon. (See appendix C to this part.);
(2) Be located clear of appurtenances and devices such as ladders, pipes, doors, and tarpaulins;
(3) So far as practicable, be located so that dirt or water is not directed to it from the wheels of the transport vehicle;
(4) Be located away from any marking (such as advertising) that could substantially reduce its effectiveness, and in any case at least 3 inches (76.0 mm.) away from such marking;
(5) Have the words or identification number (when authorized) printed on it displayed horizontally, reading from left to right;
(6) Be maintained by the carrier in a condition so that the format, legibility, color, and visibility of the placard will not be substantially reduced due to damage, deterioration, or obscurement by dirt or other matter;
(7) Be affixed to a background of contrasting color, or must have a dotted or solid line outer border which contrasts with the background color.
(d) Recommended specifications for a placard holder are set forth in appendix C of this part. Except for a placard holder similar to that contained in appendix C to this part, the means used to attach a placard may not obscure any part of its surface other than the borders.
(e) A placard or placard holder may be hinged provided the required format, color, and legibility of the placard are maintained.

(7) Be affixed to a background of contrasting color, or must have a dotted or solid line outer border which contrasts with the background color.

I don't care if they have stripes or not, but according to number 7, that white line around the placard makes it so you can put it on a red surface. And if that doesn't do it, there is enough contrast when using our placard holders and the flippers. I don't think they were planning on striping new trailers, just covering our existing stripes, which when you figure how much time it could take to clean all the adhesive off, could actually be the cheapest way to do it.

 

[Serene Gene]

number 4 . White is the trailer color by adding a red strip, which is not painted on, can be considered a marking.

§ 172.516 Visibility and display of placards.

(4) Be located away from any marking (such as advertising) that could substantially reduce its effectiveness, and in any case at least 3 inches (76.0 mm.) away from such marking;

Con-way asked PHMSA for clarification when they designed the blue stripes and were told that the striping was considered a body color, not a "marking"- and therefore not a violation of the regulation you cited. I can't see how a different color stripe would make a difference as far as its legality.

Now Con-way spent money on making sure the blue strip was ok to use...

Spent money on what? All they did was write a letter.

So which would you rather have a raise or a red strip on the trl

Who says you can't do both? (Or none of the above, for that matter.)

 

[icuicp]

Hazmat placard on red background.

Same deal.

Red trailer , hazmat placards.

Red background didn't stop these designs.

 

[vetran peddleman]

Not really. I have one of these city units. Nice truck if it was a box truck. Couldn't pull Kleenex out of a box , much less a set.

If that's an M6

I HATE backing up with the automatics. Hooking a set with one is not fun either.

Try driving in any kind of snow, even about half an inch, w/ one of these M2 106 freightliner automatics, and you'll just sit there and spin. It doesn't help that they come newly equipped w/ those racing slick 'Smart' (actually dumb) closed shoulder drive tires.

 

[vetran peddleman]

Remember when Conway was going to put advertisements on its trailers? Like Coca-cola would sign up and we'd repaint the trucks with their ad. That was talked about for a long time as extra revenue but I never saw a trailer with an ad.

Con-way never did get ads on their trailers, but they sure spent millions on getting their logo on NASCAR racing Ford F-150's and Ford Mustangs

 

[vetran peddleman]

I don't care if they have stripe or not. And I'm sure the raise is not based on cost of rebrand. They will give us the smallest amount they think they can get away with. If we actually get a raise.

Probably CD...