XPO union thread.

Discussion in 'XPO Logistics' started by upnorth, Oct 12, 2016.

  1. Stand4afuture

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  3. sucker666

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    Your still missing the point Union shops get an opportunity to vote on concessions. We don't.
     
  4. icuicp

    icuicp Well-Known Member

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    People are voting: with their feet - they are leaving.

    Taking less money for better situations , in some cases.
     
  5. sucker666

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    Fly I can almost bet sir with 100% certainty sir if you had any Seniority you would be singing a different tune.
    Respectfully
     
  6. sucker666

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    Yes you only have to look around at almost every location and it's happening.
     
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  7. Fly-by-night

    Fly-by-night Only when you care to send the very best

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    I never understood this. I always thought that when you own or lease a truck you were a subcontractor and signed a agreement on those terms. Now if you didn't like those term why did they sign? Also as a O/O or a private carrier you are not a company employee of XPO just look at our sub-service. Now from what I understand these port driver are contract driver either working as there own company or working for another company that sub contracts with XPO. So how can they be considered employees of XPO?
     
  8. sucker666

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    Yes I was a little confused by this also till I found out some of them actually lease their trucks from Xpo also . So Xpo controls every aspect of there employment but claims there not employees. I guess the courts felt the same way ruling in their favor.
     
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  9. Fly-by-night

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    Yes you are right one that, but is it a vote when your chooses are vote yes or we close the doors
     
  10. Fly-by-night

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    Well I'm sorry to say that would be a big fat NO. I have all the respect for anyone that comes in and does their job no matter were they are on the seniority list. I have very little respect for anyone that thinks just because I been here for XXyears I deserve special treatment. I have seen it and heard it from drivers senior and junior to me.
     
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  11. Fly-by-night

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    I guess they should have had someone smarter read the contract they signed. I though it was funny that they were bitching about a contract the willfully signed and agreed to. Plus were are talking about California
     
  12. Stand4afuture

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    Well not sure what was in their contract that was writen up. But it's obvious that what ever it was , XPO didn't keep their part of the bargain or used it in an unfair way. They've lost 42 million and still loosing.
    I'll agree they should have had someone read that contract. I think that's why they are trying to organize. But from i was told and read the company threatened them and refused their petition. That's why the strikes.
    But only time will tell the outcome of this.
    Self-driving truck's will have alot to do with it.
     
  13. sucker666

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    Who said anything about speacial treatment. Certainly wasn't me. If someone thinks they are entitled to something outside of the rules or policy or for that matter a contract because of their seniority then that's there own thing . The only thing I think you should keep in mind is if someone has survived 20 or so yrs. with this company I think that's something to respect in its own right because they must have been a safe hard working individual to meet the standards put fourth over the years. I personally have seen hundreds of drivers come and go from my terminal alone because they couldn't live up to the job requirements. I do I think I'm entitled to anything special other than respect for myself and my employer for that.. well I let you answer that one.
    I have seen many frustrated superstars below me in seniority over the years feel they are entitled to everything I get from my tenure. I will admit a few could even outwork me because of their younger physical prowness. Should surrender my seniority to them? The truth is most either crash and burn in the process or find some supvisor or manger to stick their nose up their ass to get their way and to honest I have seen that work for them.
    I know it's frustrating to be lower in seniority I was when I i arrived he and at other jobs I have held so I know your pain.
    Good luck
     
  14. joes bar and grill

    joes bar and grill Well-Known Member

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    By the terms of the contract. What I read was they were required to buy company fuel and services, forced dispatch, and other things, forced dispatch was a big factor in the courts decision imo.
     
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    I went back a read this and realized it didn't say what what I was asking. It should say " Do I think...
     
  16. sucker666

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    It's a real win win for the company. "Employee like " driver without all the added expense like equipment, benefits etc.
    These guys start to realize in the end when all their expenses are paid they net very little and Xpo is the winner.
    But I forgot .. Xpo would never scam anyone. Silly me.
     
  17. Fly-by-night

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    but they still signed it. do people read what they are signing?
     
  18. Fly-by-night

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    but I and other hear it day in and day out. "I don't have to work the dock I've done it for years" "I've been here for XX years why should I do it" " I've done on time on the dock"

    WOW you make it sound like they just serviced a prison sentence. Last I looked the doors were not locked and no one forced them to stay. They stayed by there own choice. Respect is earned not given just because you been here for so many years doesn't gain any respect from me, but you work ethics does.

    I too have seen drivers leave and only 2 were because of job requirements. The other left due to double standards between the top and bottom of the board. I do blame management on that.
    Just like some of the senior guy calling HR and crying like little bitches to get there way.

    Here is what pissing of the bottom of the board. A flex guy comes in for a very senior driver because he is on vacation. The flex guy is forced to work 12-14hrs days and is told that is because there are 5 guy on vacation. Now the next week the senior guy is back and he works his 8 and the gate even though 5 guy are on vacation that week too. This is a big double standard I talking about. I also blame management for allowing it. There are those guys that no matter how many driver/dockworks are off still do 8 and the gate. We even had LH drivers forced to work weeks in the city because of this. Yes some have left because of the job requirements but I have to say most left because of this and this is why we can't get drivers. I see it and been told this same :horseshit: and when you call them out they have nothing to say and they walk away. I remember one week when the bottom 5 or 6 city driver were off man you need a mop to wipe up the tears. I just sat back and laughed the whole time. That's the week some drivers gained my respect and others lost it.
     
  19. whip1

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    The fraud and theft of the pension was so bad in the 80's the government had to take control of it. Had the union done their job of looking out for the little guy instead of getting rich on their backs, we might not have an insolvent pension.
     
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