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Hollywoodz said:
Contracts are negotiated individually for each terminal. You may have specific issues at your barn that can be addressed in YOUR contract. They have specifically rejected a national contract for XPO. So, the answer is that work rules can be negotiated for specific situations. I can't say that it will be easy to do it. They fight like hell to keep the policy they already have.
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Are you negotiating work rules?
 
Hollywoodz said:
Yes. Drivers working the dock isn't an issue here in Miami. They have hired dock workers to fill their needs. I expect the entire system will do the same. It makes sense financially.
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Really? I have no idea how it's working out everywhere else but I suspect XPO started with dockworkers ( at an accelerated level ) to free up CDL drivers , not to save money.

Although it makes more sense financially as you stated , it seems to me there is no organization ( company wide ) as to how best to implement dockworkers.

From my vantage point , it varies from place to place and that lack of a grand plan has lead to a lot of waste and bad service.

A fundamental problem with XPO is the training of new employees and the failure to highlight successful employees to new employees. If someone is good at their job how about having that person train new people? Not the biggest ass kisser.

Anyway , you may be right that there will be more dockworkers in the future. But with little to no discipline and hit-or-miss training expect further declines in quality of service.
 
icuicp said:
Really? I have no idea how it's working out everywhere else but I suspect XPO started with dockworkers ( at an accelerated level ) to free up CDL drivers , not to save money.

Although it makes more sense financially as you stated , it seems to me there is no organization ( company wide ) as to how best to implement dockworkers.

From my vantage point , it varies from place to place and that lack of a grand plan has lead to a lot of waste and bad service.

A fundamental problem with XPO is the training of new employees and the failure to highlight successful employees to new employees. If someone is good at their job how about having that person train new people? Not the biggest ass kisser.

Anyway , you may be right that there will be more dockworkers in the future. But with little to no discipline and hit-or-miss training expect further declines in quality of service.
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LOL, lack of a grand plan is an understatement. Maybe lack of any plan at all. No argument from me, but I really do hope they get their act together.
 
Hollywoodz said:
Yeah...they got nothing. Notice how not one of them addressed the health care comparison. None of them ever answer a direct question. We've been accused of making things up and not listening. I'm willing to listen. Tell me one valid reason to stand alone against a corporate giant when you could have a strong influence on the policies and procedures you are required to follow. We can stop with the corruption argument. The most recent evidence of that was Rome Aloise back 2 years ago and he has either been suspended or banned. I can't remember which. For over 25 years, the Teamsters were under the stewardship of the Federal Government. They couldn't spend a dime without approval. They were just released from that obligation a few years ago.

They are attempting to deflect from the real issue at hand. There is only one question you need to ask and that is "Can you achieve a better working environment with better benefits through union representation." The answer is yes.
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What about John Coli???
http://www.tdu.org/how_to_clean_out_teamster_corruption
https://deadline.com/2018/06/chicag...talks-extortion-cinespace-studios-1202411675/
What about Willie Smith???
http://www.tdu.org/willie_smith_gets_one_year

These are not even one year old
 
Fly-by-night said:
What about John Coli???
http://www.tdu.org/how_to_clean_out_teamster_corruption
https://deadline.com/2018/06/chicag...talks-extortion-cinespace-studios-1202411675/
What about Willie Smith???
http://www.tdu.org/willie_smith_gets_one_year

These are not even one year old
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Thanks for correcting me. However, the article does point out that all 3 will be gone soon. It also points out that there is still alot of work to be done with regards to corruption. And they are doing the work. They are aware of the situation and are trying to do something about it. Corruption is deep seated in individuals and not in the organization. As long as I see them working to remove these corrupt individuals, I'll put my faith in their ability to finally get the job done.

By the way, this article is from their own publication. They aren't hiding this stuff. They are dealing with it.
 
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Hollywoodz said:
You can beat this to death, if you choose but if the vote was 12-5 on Friday and it became 9-8 on Wednesday, what happened in between to change the vote. They got a 1.10 raise. Do you really believe that had no influence on the vote?
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Playing devils advocate here, what if the only reason those four drivers had to vote yes was the disparity in pay compared to other local service centers? Once the pay is equal, there would no longer be any reason left for them to vote yes.
 
CCXdriver said:
Playing devils advocate here, what if the only reason those four drivers had to vote yes was the disparity in pay compared to other local service centers? Once the pay is equal, there would no longer be any reason left for them to vote yes.
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That is 100% true, just as many of the "suthern boys" line is with overtime disparity....only all this can be taken away at a moment's notice as easily as it was given.
Just like the bonus...we had no notice, no say....most who received little or no bonus are happy....our bonus closing out over 100% this year so we stand to lose.
 
Amazing how long someone can hold a grudge over something that no longer involves them . Talk about brooding over a loss .
 
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CCXdriver said:
Playing devils advocate here, what if the only reason those four drivers had to vote yes was the disparity in pay compared to other local service centers? Once the pay is equal, there would no longer be any reason left for them to vote yes.
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I would have to say that is a possibility. If sellouts is too strong a word for you in this situation, I would rephrase as extremely short sighted individuals. If TeamCare isn't a valid reason to vote yes, I don't know what else is. As a former CCX driver, you should know the value of a great health care plan.

In any event, based on the actions of this company, legal motions will be filed with the court. The story has not ended just yet.
 
Hollywoodz said:
I would have to say that is a possibility. If sellouts is too strong a word for you in this situation, I would rephrase as extremely short sighted individuals. If TeamCare isn't a valid reason to vote yes, I don't know what else is. As a former CCX driver, you should know the value of a great health care plan.

In any event, based on the actions of this company, legal motions will be filed with the court. The story has not ended just yet.
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Hollwoodz , you make some great points.
And the story has not ended just yet.
In cases like this , when has the union prevailed?
The winner looks like the opposing attorneys who will collect big checks to go to lunch and dinner together.

Not trying to be pessimistic just realistic.
 
icuicp said:
Hollwoodz , you make some great points.
And the story has not ended just yet.
In cases like this , when has the union prevailed?
The winner looks like the opposing attorneys who will collect big checks to go to lunch and dinner together.

Not trying to be pessimistic just realistic.
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In cases like this, more often than not, the original vote stands. That's reality. I don't know the actual percentage of cases that are ruled either way, but I'll try to find out. It's fair to say that the outcome will depend on how well the lawyers present their case and the inclinations of the judge hearing the case. XPO's reputation in the courts as a serial violator of labor law won't help them here. And it's also fair to say that there is hope that this election may be nullified and XPO could be ordered to the bargaining table, as any further election would be tainted. There also a possibility that nothing will happen. As I said....stay tuned.

You're absolutely right that the lawyers always win.
 
When I started here we payed zero premium for good healthcare now we have people paying thousands a year in premiums for much less substantial coverage. If we’re going to have Healthcare and pay high weekly premiums we should at least better coverage like Teamcare plan.
 
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As promised, here is the chart that is a side by side comparison of the Cigna Plan we have now and the Team Care Plan that was proposed as part of the economic package in negotiations. The chart represents only the most significant parts of the plans. This format was chosen to facilitate distribution to XPO employees. There is so much more that will be posted soon.

Team Care is a ZERO PREMIUM PLAN , offered at no cost to you and at minimal additional cost to the company. The plan can be modified, so that there is no additional cost to the company either. For an XPO DSR on a family plan, there is an immediate savings of about FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS per year. Should the employee or a member of his family require medical care, the savings could multiply exponentially, depending on the medical condition and extent of the treatment. Just take a look at the Out of Pocket Maximum for the two plans. What happens if you need a specialist that's NOT in network? Under Teamcare, your out of pocket is 2K. Under Cigna, it's 20K.

HOW MUCH MONEY IS TAKEN FROM YOUR CHECK WEEKLY?

One particular benefit not listed...

If you die prematurely, for any reason, your family will receive full coverage for a period of 5 years at no cost to them. As you are well aware, Cigna doesn't offer that. Your family won't even get a sympathy card from them.

XPO has categorically rejected this proposal for reasons that I cannot explain or understand. The time has come for you to ask your management team..."What am I worth? What is my family worth?" "Why can't XPO offer this plan, especially when they can do so at an insignificant increase in cost and potentially no increase in cost at all.

 It's almost like walking into a Ford Dealership with only two cars left in inventory on the showroom floor. One is a Shelby Mustang Convertible and the other a base Ford Focus. You can have either one for 10K. Which one will you take home with you?

 
Hoot Owl said:
That’s an awesome plan the busters will have a hard time with that! It just shows how these corporations are taking back from us through our benefits to line their pockets. Great job guys.
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A beautiful man from the past would always talk about junk plans and he is not in charge any more and junk plans are back and dont worry guns and the church will cure all
 
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