Zero Emissions Truck ( hydrogen / electric)

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  1. icuicp

    icuicp Well-Known Member

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    Nikola Motor Company article in Business Insider about the Nikola One.

    The Nikola Two is the daycab version ( with steering rear wheels according to the presentation )
     
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    neat but just like the LNG trucks it's the cost of getting the info-structures for this in place.
     
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    icuicp Well-Known Member

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    That , an imagine the maintenance on such a complex machine.
     
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    Bring them up here where it gets really cold. They won't work.
     
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    Tesla , Elon Musk unveil electric semi truck

    The battery-powered Tesla Semi, set to enter production in 2019, is a daycab with a range of 500 miles on a single charge at highway speeds while hauling 80,000 pounds.

    The truck is powered by a battery situated under the cab floor and is propelled by four electric motors, one at each wheel end on the drive axles. It utilizes regenerative braking and requires no shifting or clutching. The front hood lifts to reveal exterior storage space rather than an engine.

    Factoring the cost of the lease, insurance, maintenance and fuel, a diesel truck is 20% more expensive to operate per mile than a Tesla Semi, he said.

    The Tesla Semi also will come equipped with a Level 2 automated driving system dubbed “Enhanced Autopilot,” which includes automatic emergency braking, automatic lane keeping and lane-departure warnings.

    “Every truck we sell will have Enhanced Autopilot as standard,” Musk said.

    The driver-assist technology is similar to the Autopilot system available in Tesla’s passenger cars. When engaged, that feature automatically maintains the vehicle’s lane while keeping a safe following distance, but requires the driver to remain attentive and keep his or her hands on the wheel.

    With the Tesla Semi, that technology goes a step further.

    If the driver has a medical emergency and becomes disabled, the truck will stay in its lane and gradually come to a halt, and even call emergency services, Musk said. “This is a massive increase in safety.”

    Tesla also has designed the truck to automatically prevent jack-knife accidents, which Musk described as a trucker’s “worst nightmare.”

    With its independent motors on each wheel, the truck will dynamically adjust the torque on each wheel so that jackknifing is “impossible,” he said.

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    - 0-60 mph comes in just five seconds, for the truck alone. With the full 80,000 pound load, 0-60 mph takes just 20 seconds. That’s far, far less time than a conventional diesel-powered semi.

    - The power continues when it comes to uphill driving. A traditional diesel truck would be able to take a 5-percent grade at 45 mph max. The Tesla Semi can do the same incline at 65 mph.

    - Thirty minutes on a Megacharger, Tesla says, will be sufficient for 400 miles of range. “400 miles is about 6-7 hours of driving,” Musk points out. “By the time you’re done with your break, the truck is ready to go. You will not be waiting for your truck to recharge.”

    - They’ll recharge using new Tesla Megachargers, the company’s new infrastructure designed specifically for Tesla Semi. Solar-powered, charging a local Tesla Powerpack, there’ll be “24/7, guaranteed low [cost] electricity,” Musk promises, with it priced at $0.07/kWh . “Because these Megachargers are solar powered, your truck is running on sunlight.”

    - “We’re guaranteeing this truck will not break down for a million miles,” Musk said. “You can use two of those four motors and it’ll still beat a diesel truck.”

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    - Slash Gear.com
     
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    Lack of ‘safeguards’ in Tesla's Autopilot contributed to fatal crash ( Tesla car , not truck )

    NTSB recommends all automakers limit Level 2 self-driving in more conditions

    “Tesla allowed the driver to use the system outside of the environment for which it was designed, and the system gave far more leeway to the driver to divert his attention to something other than driving,” Board member Christopher Hart said. “The result was a collision that, frankly, should have never happened.”

    - The Verge
     
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    upnorth Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Skynet. It’s closer than you think.
     
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    This could be a good thing for Trucking in the future, more Freight could be relayed and therefore more turns thus more home time.
    Not many want to be gone days at a time anyway. Just saying.
     
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    Definitely good for the environment
     
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    J.B. Hunt, Wal-Mart climb aboard Tesla's electric truck

    Most of the customers who announced plans to put down $5,000 deposits for the Tesla Semi indicated they wanted to test a few of the vehicles. Wal-Mart said it plans to order a total of 15 Tesla trucks, five for the United States and ten for Canada. The company operates a fleet of about 6,000 trucks in the United States.

    JB Hunt Transport Inc was the first major U.S. trucking company to announce an order for Tesla's new "Semi" electric trucks, saying it had reserved multiple vehicles for use on the U.S. West Coast.

    - Reuters
     
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    With the Tesla Semi, that technology goes a step further.

    If the driver has a medical emergency and becomes disabled, the truck will stay in its lane and gradually come to a halt, and even call emergency services, Musk said. “This is a massive increase in safety.”

    Tesla also has designed the truck to automatically prevent jack-knife accidents, which Musk described as a trucker’s “worst nightmare.”

    With its independent motors on each wheel, the truck will dynamically adjust the torque on each wheel so that jackknifing is “impossible,” he said.[/QUOTE]
    So it won't jackknife on snow and ice I have to see it to believe it.



    [/QUOTE]- “We’re guaranteeing this truck will not break down for a million miles,” Musk said. “You can use two of those four motors and it’ll still beat a diesel truck[/QUOTE]
    That's a very BIG guarantee
     
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    Maybe Musk should focus on building the Model 3. He's constantly introducing new products to get more money from investors. Before he releases it this semi, he's going to introduce some new product to distract his investors.
     
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    The battery-powered Tesla Semi, set to enter production in 2019, is a daycab with a range of 500 miles on a single charge at highway speeds while hauling 80,000 pounds.
    ^^^Hauling 80,000lbs and weighing 80,000lbs are two, very different things.^^^

    - 0-60 mph comes in just five seconds, for the truck alone. With the full 80,000 pound load, 0-60 mph takes just 20 seconds. That’s far, far less time than a conventional diesel-powered semi.
    ^^^And yet after putting that much load on the batteries, it's still going to go 500 miles^^^

    - The power continues when it comes to uphill driving. A traditional diesel truck would be able to take a 5-percent grade at 45 mph max. The Tesla Semi can do the same incline at 65 mph.
    ^^^From where did Mr. Musk pull out this comparison, his butt?^^^

    - Thirty minutes on a Megacharger, Tesla says, will be sufficient for 400 miles of range. “400 miles is about 6-7 hours of driving,” Musk points out. “By the time you’re done with your break, the truck is ready to go. You will not be waiting for your truck to recharge.”
    ^^^Ha! How much space will a solar generating plant require to operate scores of chargers at a truck stop?^^^

    - They’ll recharge using new Tesla Megachargers, the company’s new infrastructure designed specifically for Tesla Semi. Solar-powered, charging a local Tesla Powerpack, there’ll be “24/7, guaranteed low [cost] electricity,” Musk promises, with it priced at $0.07/kWh . “Because these Megachargers are solar powered, your truck is running on sunlight.”
    ^^^So drivers can only run at night, because the truck has to charge during the hours of sunlight.^^^


    - “We’re guaranteeing this truck will not break down for a million miles,” Musk said. “You can use two of those four motors and it’ll still beat a diesel truck.”
    ^^^A million miles, really? Apparently Mr. Musk hasn't seen what some drivers are capable of^^^
    I think Mr. Musk is a fraud because the vehicles his company produces either are or used to be subsidized by the federal govt in order that people would buy them. You know who owns Tesla, we do, the taxpayers.
     
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    You make great point. This guy has never has lived in a truck. He's never tried to get into a truckstop at night let alone find a place to park. Look at how long it took these truck stops to get DEF at the pumps and now they would have to add chargers.
    Hell how many of his cars are on the road now.
     
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    Tesla Semi prototype spotted driving in broad daylight

    We get to see just how deep and empty the back of the cab is – which would indicate that the battery pack is really only located at the bottom of the truck.

    Based on the performance numbers that Tesla released, the battery pack would have a capacity of about 1 MWh and that would be a very large battery pack to fit on the chassis – and we are not even talking about the weight.


    - electrek

    P.S. - The video in the article shows the tractor bobtailing. Notice that it has no mirrors on either side. I'm guessing video cameras for rear and side view.
     

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