I have a question for the pro conway union drivers

[wonderring99]

Go over to the truckingboard boneyard and tell me where are all these past union carriers and tell us what there demise was. I am curious to here your views on this.





PS... (I am not management)

[trubador]

Abf ups demise??

[wonderring99]

Abf ups demise??

Ok... since you are trying to twist my post around for your benefit. Go to the LTL boneyard on a different section on TB and explain to me why these union carriers have closed. Deregulation is not a legit argument. If you are educated you will see that there are a ton of old union ltl carriers no longer exist.

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[walken1414]

Ok... since you are trying to twist my post around for your benefit I will explain it to you since you can't click a linked word in my post. Go to the LTL boneyard on a different section on TB and explain to me why these union carriers have closed. Deregulation is not a legit argument. If you are educated you will see that there are a ton of old union ltl carriers no longer exist.
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so according to you we should just bend over and take it any way con-way wants to give it to us. The demise of the union ltl companies was deregulation. also the pro business anti worker regulations that have been put in place. carcheck would have been the best thing that could have happened, but they had to go for health care. with card check 50% plus 1 and the union would be in, majorty rule, same as now except now you have to have 2 votes and the company can flood the work pool.

[teamster elvis]

Ok... since you are trying to twist my post around for your benefit I will explain it to you since you can't click a linked word in my post. Go to the LTL boneyard on a different section on TB and explain to me why these union carriers have closed. Deregulation is not a legit argument. If you are educated you will see that there are a ton of old union ltl carriers no longer exist.

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Let me ask you a serious question w-99. How long have you been a driver? No disrespect intended. The reason I ask is because of your comment that "deregulation is not a legit argument." Maybe I'm wrong but this naive comment smells like someone who did not experience what happened to the LTL industry after deregulation. And another thing. How do you know who is management and who is not? Just curious. Again, not intending to be rude with you, just fascinated by this whole situation. TE out....

[Jeff]

We don't know who is management and who is not management but saying all those who are against or does not like something here is like saying all fat people like candy or all polar bears like Klondike bars. People should not paint with such a wide brush.

[FULL DECK]

CCX, CSX, CWX, CEX.....All originally spun off from Consolidated Freightways (a union company). Also, the Freightliner (Tractors) name brand was started by Consolidated Freightways.
Consolidated Freightways was the the No. 1 carrier for several years. Before the demise of CF, freight was deverted to Con-Way, thats how they accumulated customers, so fast, and in a short amount of time. If it were not for CF, there would not be Con-Way. It's ironic for Con-Way, also to use the acronym, that is associated with Consolidated Freightways.
As for the demise of so many union carriers, it is attributed to the fact that the turn over rate for these drivers at union companies is very low. That is why it's more expensive to operate these companies. At non-union companies the turn over rate is much more, therefore less pay, less benefits, less vacation time, less overtime pay. And they could fire at will or simply lay-off, without justification. The turn over rate at union companies is so low that some seniority list are 10+ years and growing.

[nobodyinparticular]

Some on the list were swallowed up by the big boys. Others went belly up. I don't know all of the companies on the list, but most couldn't compete with the big boys. The regional only carrier is going the way of the dinosaur, its a grow or die business. That's why Conway isn't # 1 anymore. Our niche was the whole next day service sell to the customer. That's what made us special. Now other companies do it better than we do. We don't have a gimmick to sell.

[companyclown]

My opinion is this....Drivers wanting too much for free and Management wanting the very same thing. That is a general answer though. I am pretty sure I was allowed to answer......If not, my apologies.

[Erwin fletcher]

Wait! Wait! Wait!........ Not all fat people like candy?