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Thread: Is Holland a good place to work?

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    Hoodock is offline Senior Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by slim66 View Post
    First of all I voted against all 3 mou's and the original contract. Secondly I'm a steward and am pretty familiar with the mou. They can't work part time employees with full time employees on layoff. If there are drivers on layoff, the company can use those laid off employees as 4 hour part timers. They can't use the 4 hour part timers that were hired off the street. Of course I'm not sure how it works in the south, you people like to have your right to work laws and then cry when the union is powerless to help you. But if that is what they are doing at your barn you best be filing on the lost work.
    Just so you know,they have worked casuals in JO with people laid off.The unions explanation is that as long as they offer the laid off workers the work first and they do not accept it they can use casuals.This is supposed to be in some letter of understanding,that I myself has yet to see.Then on the other hand the ten that were laid off,should have never been.I did not slow down at all.We just bagged loads,missed cut off times,and pretty much just pissed off customers.

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    Our TM told us that the lay offs came directly from YRC in KC, they were quessing a slow down so lay people off. I quess that is why YRC is in the shape they are in. They laid people off in GR but are working them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoodock View Post
    Just so you know,they have worked casuals in JO with people laid off.The unions explanation is that as long as they offer the laid off workers the work first and they do not accept it they can use casuals.This is supposed to be in some letter of understanding,that I myself has yet to see.Then on the other hand the ten that were laid off,should have never been.I did not slow down at all.We just bagged loads,missed cut off times,and pretty much just pissed off customers.
    Yep was out for 31 days for this in 94. What a waste, should have just let them do it back then.
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    Not a bad place to work been with holland since 10-11-2011 only been layed off once after thanksgiving and got more hours while on lay off than I did when I was not on lay off they just brought me back on 1-3-2012. All in all not bad as long as holland don't go down with the yrc ship

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    Quote Originally Posted by team486 View Post
    Yep was out for 31 days for this in 94. What a waste, should have just let them do it back then.
    I couldn't agree more. And the quality of help being hired is reflected in their pay. These morons have never even seen a forklift before much less used one. Pretty sure that the pre-employment drug screens were waived as well.
    Last edited by slim66; 01-10-2012 at 04:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoodock View Post
    Just so you know,they have worked casuals in JO with people laid off.The unions explanation is that as long as they offer the laid off workers the work first and they do not accept it they can use casuals.This is supposed to be in some letter of understanding,that I myself has yet to see.Then on the other hand the ten that were laid off,should have never been.I did not slow down at all.We just bagged loads,missed cut off times,and pretty much just pissed off customers.
    Sucks but yeah, if they offered the work to the laid off drivers and they turn it down, then they can use casuals. Nobody laid off in MI yet and casuals being used regularly. I work inbound and have seen plenty freight leftover from the night before that they couldn't or wouldn't move. We never saw a slow down, and are moving the same if not more freight then we did in summer. Like was posted, the layoffs come from corporate and have nothing to do with the freight volume, but more so because of the time of year. Not sure why we have TM's anymore besides to just write warning letters for stubbing your toe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedball View Post
    Sad to see what has happened to the great company I started with in '91 at MS, 1st as casual, then city/dock combo (on the list in 3 months), then to line haul 3 months later. Was never laid off, no givebacks (those came after I left), worked every day, even as casual until retiring in 2007. Operating ratio in those early days was I believe in the low 80's. I guess those days are over now since Yellow has their claws in it. Too
    I'd like to add on to what speedball said.......I retired 2 years ago with Holland and put in 30 years with them. I started in 1981 when the Coopers owned Holland. In the beginning it was a great company to work for making money hands over!!!!! It was the best for sure. Than we were sold to TNT.....started to change at that point.....than sold to USF Corp....... started to decline.... finally bought by YRC and went to hell in a hand baskets. Over the 30 years I spent with Holland, the company went from one of the best to barely hanging on now due to YRC......thank God I retired.....had enough of the crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antus View Post
    I'd like to add on to what speedball said.......I retired 2 years ago with Holland and put in 30 years with them. I started in 1981 when the Coopers owned Holland. In the beginning it was a great company to work for making money hands over!!!!! It was the best for sure. Than we were sold to TNT.....started to change at that point.....than sold to USF Corp....... started to decline.... finally bought by YRC and went to hell in a hand baskets. Over the 30 years I spent with Holland, the company went from one of the best to barely hanging on now due to YRC......thank God I retired.....had enough of the crap.
    You would never belive what goes on here now,even if you seen it with your own eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by team486 View Post
    You would never belive what goes on here now,even if you seen it with your own eyes.
    When I retired at the time, our pension was frozen, we had to kick back 15@ of our pay, of course they took away our ham at x mas and birthday gift also (cheap B***ard) than to top it off give back a week of vacation. Let me clarify something I am not a driver I worked in the office (union) of course. We fought tooth and nail to get into the union. At that time Mike G. was president he tried everything to dissuade us from joining. Thank God we got in for sure.

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    When I retired it was really bad. Gave up my pension, 15% back on pay, no ham for x-mas,no birthday gift and finally gave back a week of vacation. 30 years with Holland and finally had enough!!!!


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