All this good stuff is on the line come the contract. If YRC fails and/or does not come back fairly strong..slash cuts may be in the cards. Unionized freight is on the line
This is just the beginning of why I am happy to pay dues for the contract I receive.
yrc is yrc we are ABF and we don't follow the same coarse. We will deal with our up coming contract and you can keep a close eye on the yrc contract talks in 2015. That is like some people on different threads asking why should they join the union. I say if they are happy where they are and they can live with the rules stay there and be happy.
What strikes me as funny is they the ones that ask always bring up the current problems that may now exist.
They talk about our pension. They should worry about the defined pensions they don't have instead. We have funds with BILLIONS of dollars in them and they don't. So again I ask who should be more concerned?
Worst case we will receive 1200.00 or more if it fails and what will they get?
No they that try to push that agenda are barking up the wrong tree. When I see drivers other than them pulling their freight I wonder how they can sit by and watch their work move by someone other than them. That I find inexcusable. They have the right not to want to go union and I wish them Good Luck. But state facts not BS. But we will see I know I have a good pension coming and I have worked for it. Just because their company took their pension and they did not have a chance to vote on it is not the unions fault. Hows that going? Oh and that's right they also had their pay cut without a vote.
So as you can see I would not be worrying about the Teamsters. Look no farther than your own company. YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!
I love the way some people think. If you are in a union right now. Everyone else in a union is your problem and effects you. The unions are under so much attack. And losing the fight. Yesterday it was Frank's job. Today it's Steve's job. Tomorrow it will be yours. I guess the divide and conquer is working after all.
YRC buy-outs got caught in the middle of it all. Just so you'll know the IBT and Fund lawyers were allowed to look at the books. There was no doubt in their minds that YRC would collapse if they were forced to make pension payments or not allowed concessions. Hello, were you there? Do you read? over!! Talk about stating facts..not bs. ABF would not allow the IBT to examine the books. What does that say?
ABF the company is like any other large corporation. They are only concerned with labor costs..not people. ABF the company tried to wiggle out of the NMFA. That we know. ABF the company complained vehemently to the union about the unfair cost advantages YRC was given. The IBT tried to level the playing field but was shot down by the ABF teamster vote. So ABF the Company went to court to ask the court to do ABF's dirty work.like deal with it next contract the court is saying. Contract time is near. Let ABF the company come to plate, state their case and make it happen. Does ABF the company have the guts to do this? We shall see. If not they should shut up and stop the whining
ABF did you not see all the IBT mailings we posted during that time. So if you believe what Tyson say's then you live with his word. We the ABF Teamsters gathered the true numbers and voted accordingly. You don't even have a clue what yrc does or doesn't have. Tyson said we would be gone in a few months if we did not give back. How did that go? No you are and will always be a follower and if that makes you happy go for it. And for the Wall St. mess all the trucking companies suffered not just the union companies. No yrc was and is mismanaged and that is the problem. We operated at 89 at my terminal paying full rate and benefits so we know it can be done. My terminal has been in the low 90's and high 80's for a long time now. And please show me where your name appears in the contract that ABF and the Teamsters have. If not I will assume you were not present during talks and therefore you have NO PROOF as to what you say on the matter. The courts will decide that matter not you. I have not heard ABF whine they just put their money(NOT BORROWED) up to prove a wrong was done. I really enjoy seeing you always bring that up so I know it really eats at you. WHO SLIMMED OUT OF THE CONTRACT?
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That has been true for years.
Plus most teamster pensions are in the Red Zone, if they are you may colect for a while but it will end. Plus once YRC bites the dust even more people will try to colect pensions thus putting more pressure on the already underfunded system.
Now we see ABF starting to struggle too. We have seen this movie before....
It will collapse on itself soon....There is no teasmster leadership to take control so it will all end soon.
Puff, how's that pension you provide your employees making out? Did you manage to avoid the bad investments through the years?
ABF is in much better shape then YRC financially. The only problem is ABF is not that happy about being the high cost carrier that they are. ABF is not making the money they should be making. It's scaring the goats in the stock market. It's ABF's turn at bat like I said. They must know the ABF teamsters won't budge on concessions. It does look like a confrontation may be looming down the road. I know you're going out with the lead pack to put them down. Let's get it on!!