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    Quote Originally Posted by CCXdriver View Post
    Right, The Federal Government said, "Negotiate, or shut down".

    Yet, ABF's competitors don't necessarily need to negotiate. That forces them to compete on an un-level playing field. Courtesy of Federal law.
    I love how you try to find any government involvement on the private sector is a condradiction to what conservatives believe. You just end up making yourself look foolish, as usual.

    It's simple CCX. There was a vote by employees, the government only makes sure the contract is followed.

    CCX, conservatives are not anarchist. We still believe there is a place for government. Give it up.

    I'm done with this silly debate of yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    I love how you try to find any government involvement on the private sector is a condradiction to what conservatives believe. You just end up making yourself look foolish, as usual.

    It's simple CCX. There was a vote by employees, the government only makes sure the contract is followed.

    CCX, conservatives are not anarchist. We still believe there is a place for government. Give it up.

    I'm done with this silly debate of yours.

    Absolutely, I understand.

    You're in favor of Capitalism, without Government interference.

    Until it's you that benefits.

    You ignore the idea that companies may prefer not to have a vote.

    You ignore that companies may not want to sign or resign a contract.

    You ignore that unions restrict a business owner from maximizing profits.

    There really is no debate, it's just you ignoring my points.

    If there is a statement there you disagree with, feel free to reply. Just please don't change the subject, or nitpick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCXdriver View Post
    Absolutely, I understand.

    You're in favor of Capitalism, without Government interference.

    Until it's you that benefits.

    You ignore the idea that companies may prefer not to have a vote.

    You ignore that companies may not want to sign or resign a contract.

    You ignore that unions restrict a business owner from maximizing profits.

    There really is no debate, it's just you ignoring my points.

    If there is a statement there you disagree with, feel free to reply. Just please don't change the subject, or nitpick.
    See, this is where you look foolish. I'm for proper government. Having the government make sure a contract is enforced, is proper government.

    I'm fine with government enforcing laws and safety regs. With in reason.

    No you points start from the wrong premiss, as usual.

    How do I ignore that unions limit companies from maximizing profits? Anything can limit a company from maximizing profits. Hell, paying minimum wage limits profits. The only way to get maximum profit, would be to pay zero on wages.
    Competition from other companies limits maximum profits.

    In other words max profits would mean all revenue, and zero overhead(cost).

    Your non union. And even you limit your company(Conway?) from maximizing profits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    See, this is where you look foolish. I'm for proper government. Having the government make sure a contract is enforced, is proper government.
    Yes, but is government insistence that a contract get signed (or else) also proper?

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    No you points start from the wrong premiss, as usual.
    I'm staring with the belief that you're a proponent of Free Market Capitalism, with minimal Government interference. My apologies if incorrect.

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    Your non union. And even you limit your company(Conway?) from maximizing profits.
    Yes, but I'm not the Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCXdriver View Post
    Yes, but is government insistence that a contract get signed (or else) also proper?
    Yes, who else would enforce the law? your forgetting the company does not need to except any union. a company can continue to let the union strike, and use *****. In ABF's case, the agreed to let the union in. No government force ABF it give in. The government only makes sure the contracts is followed. Did the government force Overnite trucking to let the Teamsters in? No, and the Teamsters lost that battle.


    Quote Originally Posted by CCXdriver View Post
    I'm staring with the belief that you're a proponent of Free Market Capitalism, with minimal Government interference. My apologies if incorrect.

    I am. minimal and proper government.

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    Yes, but I'm not the Government.
    Neither is a union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    Yes, who else would enforce the law? your forgetting the company does not need to except any union. a company can continue to let the union strike, and use *****. In ABF's case, the agreed to let the union in. No government force ABF it give in. The government only makes sure the contracts is followed. Did the government force Overnite trucking to let the Teamsters in? No, and the Teamsters lost that battle.

    That's the problem. You're stuck on who won the battle. I'm saying, why did Union Pacific have to battle in the first place?

    Not that I disagree with your points. I believe Government has a place in businesses affairs, and that regulations are needed. I was just under the impression you weren't.

    So lets just agree to agree on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney View Post
    Yes, who else would enforce the law? your forgetting the company does not need to except any union. a company can continue to let the union strike, and use *****. In ABF's case, the agreed to let the union in. No government force ABF it give in. The government only makes sure the contracts is followed. Did the government force Overnite trucking to let the Teamsters in? No, and the Teamsters lost that battle.

    That's the problem. You're stuck on who won the battle. I'm saying, why did Union Pacific have to battle in the first place?

    Not that I disagree with your points. I believe Government has a place in businesses affairs, and that regulations are needed. I was just under the impression you weren't.

    So lets just agree to agree on this one.


    We can fight another day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCXdriver View Post
    Just please don't change the subject, or nitpick.
    from one of the greatest nitpickers of all time! C- you're a hoot!
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    An Open Letter to Comcast's Brian Roberts: Fire Ed Schultz!

    These attacks are enormously hypocritical given his history of vile rhetoric directed at conservatives and women. In fact, there’s nothing Limbaugh has said throughout his entire career that begins to approximate the vitriol that has come from Schultz. And this network, using him as the talking head, is condemning Limbaugh? It is hypocrisy and journalistic dishonesty of the highest order. Ed Schultz called Laura Ingraham a “right wing slut.” He claimed that "The Republicans want to see you dead! They'd rather make money off your dead corpse! They kind of like it when that woman has cancer and they don't have anything for her." or consider his comments on the former Vice President: "You're damn right, Dick Cheney's heart's a political football. We ought to rip it out and kick it around and stuff it back in him."Schultz has compared the Tea Party to Nazi Brown Shirts, asked if the term “*****” applied to Joe Lieberman’s wife, and claimed that conservative broadcasters want Obama shot. And that is but the tip of the iceberg. The list of vile, repugnant venom coming out of Schultz’s mouth is extensive as we outlined in the letter we sent to Mr. Griffin yesterday.
    Read more: An Open Letter to Comcast's Brian Roberts: Fire Ed Schultz! | NewsBusters.org


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