4hr casuals now used as casuals

[screwy louiey]

my concern is that the daily bill count has been increasing and freight as it looks is coming back to levels we haven't seen in awhile since the merger. What is going to happen when the road board becomes exhausted and freight has to be moved.City men running freight into the breaks during the weekends??? Looks like they should be giving something back on our side of the dime if they want & keep people to run freight at a decent wage.

Time is now to get back into the freight game if they want to make a statement $$$$ wise

[Cab Lizzard]

Most of the city people I talk to are working right up to their 60 out West and have been since long before the merger. Dispatcher just can not seem to get them back in unless your not liked enough for OT.
Just recently a couple of city men were allowed to jump over to the line board. This was never allowed before. Then it was also not posted for all to bid on either.
I believe the company has always had the flexibility to make service , but the management lacks the smarts to use the tools they have been given.

[codebreaker]

At our barn, TM has asked why laid off men do not want to work.

Main reason is that they figure that they may have a better chance of getting a recall if co gets desperate enough. TM also said that he would deny their unemployment if they refused 8 hours of work. BA said that it would come done to a pissing contest then, but that probably the laid off guys would win in the dispute. I don't think that the laid off guys are going to go that route because they have already started coming in to work. TM said that he would not hold up their unemployment if they were just being called for 4 hours work.

Also, on one of the other replies, if a 4 hr. casual is called in to work and they do anything more than dock work they will be paid scale rate and not 4 hr. casual rate. So if they have them doing yard work or city delivery, they get scale.

[screwy louiey]

I believe that is true cause out at a combination barn the 4 hr casual is held to the dock only and if sent to the street then his rate changes cause of the different classification. That is my understanding correct me if I'm wrong here.....

Main thing here is if there is more than 4 hrs of work work the man for a full days pay for a full day of work. Looking toward the summer the situation presents itself that the road board will be exhausted and the city board will be burned out for working the list to the 60 max and management still trying to play games on who & how to work people.

IE: city guys had hit there max 60 hours, they were behind on the I/B loads with more coming in during the weekend. We suggested to management that they could bring guys in to work the freight setting up the loads for monday in the city. Since Mondays dictates how well your operation will run for the week (either you are caught up or playing catch up). TM stated he couldn't bring us in, but we countered that as long we're only on the dock breaking freight we could work more than 60 hours for the week.
All because they could not get 4 casuals to work especially on the weekend
Well you know how the story goes and we were behind all week cause of the ineptitude of management to do the right thing. Alright I'm off my soap box now......

[Cab Lizzard]

I believe that is true cause out at a combination barn the 4 hr casual is held to the dock only and if sent to the street then his rate changes cause of the different classification. That is my understanding correct me if I'm wrong here.....

Main thing here is if there is more than 4 hrs of work work the man for a full days pay for a full day of work. Looking toward the summer the situation presents itself that the road board will be exhausted and the city board will be burned out for working the list to the 60 max and management still trying to play games on who & how to work people.

IE: city guys had hit there max 60 hours, they were behind on the I/B loads with more coming in during the weekend. We suggested to management that they could bring guys in to work the freight setting up the loads for monday in the city. Since Mondays dictates how well your operation will run for the week (either you are caught up or playing catch up). TM stated he couldn't bring us in, but we countered that as long we're only on the dock breaking freight we could work more than 60 hours for the week.

Well you know how the story goes and we were behind all week cause of the ineptitude of management to do the right thing. Alright I'm off my soap box now......

That is true he could have used you guys on the weekend as long as you had your ten hours off. But you will run into HOS problems later in the week with people running out of hours on the street or not enough to cover your bid, in the past you were given a letter for failure to cover your bid if you ran out of hours by working the weekend.
We have a few city drivers that use the 34 hour restart and their is nothing the company can do about it. Then again they also have some pretty brown noses too...
Let me also say Yellow was real good about not bringing back people on layoff. It was not until they were paying out double time and could not get people on layoff to work when they wanted them. You know graveyards Friday,Saturday and Sunday or swing shift on Sunday and double back for P&D on Monday....
Lets see here the company got the wage and pension reduction. They got 4 hour casuals and 8 hour casuals with their reduced pay rate. Straight time P&D on weekends and this management team still can't make it happen.
Hell throw the work rules out the window ( which has been done at many terminals) and they are still can not manage their manpower...
We got a shop foreman who pays a vendor to go out and do PM'S at the city drop lots to get his numbers and not have to hire or pay OT to mechanics. Then forges names on OD199"s to save money on repairs..

[werbankrupt]

routine violation at yrc. mechanics even pick up freight. contract? union? law or regulation?
it is all irrelevant.

[Lager]

routine violation at yrc. mechanics even pick up freight. contract? union? law or regulation?
it is all irrelevant.

What in the hell are u talking about?

That can't be true. I don't buy it for a minute.

Just stirring the pot.

[pilot108]

Why would anyone take a job that pays 30 % less than they could make at conway. I have talked to people that are making 48 cpm, why leave , to make 30 % less and take 3 years to make scale? When at my barn the newest driver has 5 years senority, what have they got to look forward to? Layoffs?

[werbankrupt]

absolute fact, observable nearly daily. mechanics are white paper. union took almost 3 years to stop red circle dockman who signed a "i don't want to drive" one time agreement from driving 12-14 hours daily. we routinely run frieght around our breakbulk as well. our managment does absolutely what it wants and our local shuffles just enough paperwork to keep it legal, so that labor charges go nowhere. our office people voted 7 times on the mou before it passed. vote till you get it right.
hopefully somebody has a union in their area, we don't. i am not anti-union,my family is union back to my grandparents on both sides. i am not anticompany either, but if we can't make money with no rules, no constraints, no enforcement, managments call is law, how are we ever going to profit. we are dared to file, 1-2 tears later it might be settled at a hearing. until then company will agree to stop something, then a week later will start it all over again. i have managed multiple small and large businesses, one grossing a million annually. our company does not control costs, and will routinely spend 3k to save $30 at our locale.

[werbankrupt]

furthermore, brown-nosing trumps seniority, favoritism is the rule of the day, we cry for drivers but refuse to hire back men that lost their jobs during the coo years ago, men who had no injuries or violations.