senority.

[longjohn]

Well fellas I hate to say it but I fear the days of the union will come to an end soon enough. They have been trying to break the union companies for several years. It's just part of life. There is nothing we can do about it. We can talk, complain, strike and do whatever we want but when it comes down to it, we have no voice. If our votes actually counted and our voices were heard, we would live in a nice world and keep our good working conditions with good pay. We are nothing more than serfs to corporations and the Government. It used to be that they would back off or at least do it behind our backs. Now they just do it in the open and laugh about it. The country is trillions of dollars in debt and that bs will eventually trap us all.

Sorry to bring you all down and into reality but I'm getting a lot of work right now at Reddaway and I'm hoping for the best. No union where I'm at but I did watch as my fellow Teamsters and I got chewed up and spit out at CF. What a shame. They had a good laugh about that too. If the unions fail, we may as well go work for Walmart and I don't mean as a driver. I still want the unions to succeed and even get stronger and larger. I still have hope that they will and that the economy will "really" turn around.

[Yellow who]

That little bet about buying good companies and then running them up with a boat load dept sounds something like Flip Romney did with GST Steel in KC . Could be Zollars is giving out tips to his wealthy friends . Only thing Romney structured that so it would collapse two years after he got out of the picture but he still collected from all the hardship it caused all those workers .

If you look back at it wasnt it about 5 years after he bought the Big R, and 3 after he bought Holland that it all collapsed here?? I really dont think he had any intentions of keeping this thing going, he figured we would tell him where to go when he attacked our pension as a concession, well the majority said yes and he needed another plan,, afterall what "good" ceo runs a company into the ground and cant figure out a way to blame the workforce??

[Sgt. Schultz]

If you look back at it wasnt it about 5 years after he bought the Big R, and 3 after he bought Holland that it all collapsed here?? I really dont think he had any intentions of keeping this thing going, he figured we would tell him where to go when he attacked our pension as a concession, well the majority said yes and he needed another plan,, afterall what "good" ceo runs a company into the ground and cant figure out a way to blame the workforce??

You`re probably right with your assumptions. For a long time most of us thought that Zollars was just grossly incompetent,and that may very well be the case,but if that was the case why did the stockholders and board of directors keep him in that position for so long? Some will say they kept him because his severance package was so costly,they couldn`t afford to get rid of him but keeping him was far more costly to the company. I don`t think Zollars was trying to get rid of the union,he was trying to get rid of the NMFA. It is a lot easier to negiotate with a union when a company has so many employees than it is to operate a big company without one. A union is not only good for the employees,it`s also good for the company in many ways. It`s the wages,pension,and working conditions that YRC was after. Now that YRC has accomplished much of that let`s see where they go from here. No one other than Zollars and his cronies know for sure,but this is one theory.

[jimmy g]

That little bet about buying good companies and then running them up with a boat load dept sounds something like Flip Romney did with GST Steel in KC . Could be Zollars is giving out tips to his wealthy friends . Only thing Romney structured that so it would collapse two years after he got out of the picture but he still collected from all the hardship it caused all those workers .

'Flip Rmoney' was gone before that happened to a company that was failing anyway......And he caused 78,000 workers to be hired on other jobs. He's not my guy, but picking out one specific failure out of many successes is propaganda.

I now return you to the regular b*tch session....

[jimmy g]

You`re probably right with your assumptions. For a long time most of us thought that Zollars was just grossly incompetent,and that may very well be the case,but if that was the case why did the stockholders and board of directors keep him in that position for so long? Some will say they kept him because his severance package was so costly,they couldn`t afford to get rid of him but keeping him was far more costly to the company. I don`t think Zollars was trying to get rid of the union,he was trying to get rid of the NMFA. It is a lot easier to negiotate with a union when a company has so many employees than it is to operate a big company without one. A union is not only good for the employees,it`s also good for the company in many ways. It`s the wages,pension,and working conditions that YRC was after. Now that YRC has accomplished much of that let`s see where they go from here. No one other than Zollars and his cronies know for sure,but this is one theory.

Actually, I believe he had plans of competing with UPS, from the small trucks to the 747 that models of hung in many Yellow Terminals Offices. And it may have worked, but the Economy collapsed instead of growing so he could slowly pay off the debt. He's followed the same Operating procedure that he followed in buying Preston to get Saia, splitting off Saia, saddling Preston with the Debt, and closing Preston. Now Holland has the most profitable Freight, YRC has most of the Debt.

On the 'seniority' thing (the thread subject);50 plus one voted for the MOU. That's the Union Rules....Matters not to me- I was laid off before the merger, so I'm gone.....

[albag]

The union's primary goal is to provide the greatest good to the greatest number. 308 PLEASE explain how that would have been accomplished by shutting down ALL the YRCW companies.

[ROADY]

Hey Roady, you're #1 in my book!! (Of course my book isn't worth much)

PS - I passed by the old Hackensack terminal over the weekend. Haven't seen it in years. Wow, all the dock doors have been boarded up and it's been modernized as though it was used for some totally different business.

Triplex, that terminal has been empty for quite a few years now. A construction outfit was in there for a while. It's ashame that was a nice little terminal to work out of. Good job, good people.

[Triplex]

Triplex, that terminal has been empty for quite a few years now. A construction outfit was in there for a while. It's ashame that was a nice little terminal to work out of. Good job, good people.

Couldn't agree with you more on that. It didn't even feel like you were going to work, just getting together with a bunch of good guys. The B&W crumb cake from the salesman some mornings before starting out, all great times. Like all good things it ended much too soon.

PS - The terminal area and parking lot look like they were fixed up fairly recently. A handicap ramp is built out front and it looks fairly nicely renovated all around. No equipment of any kind in the yard from what I could see.

[308]

do you live to work.or work to live.

[wolf]

do you live to work.or work to live.

Sorry to say nowdays its both....sucks but its something 99% of us must face.