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Originally Posted by johnnyrotten  Wow I can't tell if there is sarcasm in these words or you guys are trying to be funny. It's sad but if you listen to Ron's words............. .he speaks the truth and if no one stands up to this B/S we are all F**KED going back to 1997 levels, instead of moving forward. $3,000 a month in 2013 the same as what it was worth in 1997 "SAD". Probably in 2013 we'll be lucky if $3,000 buys a tank of gas  Hello wake up..................lets move forward and not backwards. I don't know about the rest of you but I would like to retire when I'm still young enough to enjoy it and not work till the day I die |
just want to say that the 1997 ups deal sucked and ron should not be proud of what he achieved then
the initial ups offer was the same money for a 4 yr contract as what ron got the members for 5 yrs with a 3 week strike
not to mention what controversy surrounding the
FORGIVING of a 90 mil payment owed to the CSPF right after ratification of that smelly deal, what was that all about
ironic that the 3 week strike cost ups approx 90 mil in revenue and the union and CSPF cover that loss with a gift
i wonder what impact that additional 90 mil would have today on the underfunded CSPF??????/
as for the NMFA i can't blame ron too much there as we haven't had a decent NMFA since 1976
so it was basicly the same old **** all along
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incidently guys and gals ups will recieve a 2.2 billion dollar tax credit in 2008 due to the 6.1 billion lump sum payment withdrawal penalty so in reality they not only stand to gain huge savings from the future contributions with no increasing withdrawal liability, this in reality only cost them approx 3.8 billion to accomplish
"the great escape":hide: