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Originally Posted by Toby  Let's see you are looking for the statement that it was caused because of our bases in saudi arabia. But let's go even deeper and look at all the attacks leading up to 9/11 including the first tower attack under Clinton , let's discount the USS Cole attack , how about the fact that we showed weakness by not responding to that one , or the fact that they only respect power and when we cut and ran out of Somalia we showed weakness |
I said nothing of the sort. My point is that there is a general disconnect as to why we were targeted. Has nothing to do with our freedom or our culture, it's our foreign policy, which includes every president since at least Reagan, so don‘t put words in my mouth.
Understanding the problem is an important part of being able to solve it, something the right doesn‘t seem to be all that interested in. The Muslim thing has very little to do with it. Bin Laden was pissed that we were in, what he thought to be, his backyard. He called it a jihad to get dumb
s expecting 72 virgins to fly planes. It worked. It was our foreign policy, good or bad, that catalyzed the attacks, not the religion. Religion was an excuse and a tool, not much more. Don’t take my understanding of his motives as defense of his position either, I think he should be skinned alive and dipped in acid. You should always know and understand your enemy.
Obama has been blasted for being willing to talk without precondition, which is stupid, diplomacy on every level is important. McCain says he won’t even sit down with Spain, a NATO ally for God’s sake. Our world opinion has taken a nose dive in the last 8 years, and it’s no wonder. To much “shooting from the hip” going on for a superpower of our influence. We need a cooler head.
The thing is, party loyalty is such an epidemic that it has ruined our country. Republican or Democrat to the death is completely and utterly retarded. What about our country, and who is really best to run it? The slick Maverick who no longer is, or the guy who seems to have a good grip of what’s going on but has a different name?
Country first? Take out the party loyalty and propaganda, and I might believe you. If you haven’t seriously considered voting for both candidates then you are no patriot, you‘re a pawn, so don‘t kid yourself. I used to be excited about McCain, until he sold out to his party and Rove politics. I may sound like a Dem, but I’m for the best candidate, regardless of party. I have and will vote for McCain again for senate, but not for president.