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Old 06-30-2009, 03:33 PM
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Well from the looks of it this might be the case. However there is a very wide shoulder there. There was an out. There is more to this story than what meets the eye.

I have to ask some questions and don't take it the wrong way. I have a real problem with this being the Con-Way drivers' fault. This guy has been in the chair for years, an experienced man, a seasoned veteran, and I really have a problem with the idea that it could be his fault.
This looks like a management problem if you ask me.

Was the driver delayed at the turn point to the last minute?
Did he have the opportunity to have time for a break time(outside the confines of the workings of the job) between the turn point and home?
Was he told by the supervisor to hurry back?

On a more general note.
Do you guys at Con-Way feel that you are given enough time to complete your job, without feeling the need to be rushed to the point of being in violation of the 11/14 rules?

I-65 is the most dangerous stretch of highway in the Midwest, in my opinion. I have seen more wrecks on this highway than any other. The southbound lanes are the "make up time" lanes after the trek through Chicago and the northbound lanes are the "get your arse through Chicago" lanes.

If time allows in the next short while, I will get the transit out and shoot a few grades. While the hill crest is an obstacle, there is undoubtedly more to this story than the obvious. I drove this stretch on Sunday, and did not feel that this grade was overwhelmingly blind. That is why I say there is much more to this story than what meets the eye.

My condolences to the family of the victims, and a speedy recovery to the injured.
as far as the 11/14 hr rules,we as conway linehaul drivers have log books and punch cards at every stop and the log must match the time card..if a driver reaches the limit he is to pull off park call in and he will be picked up from where ever he is..and yes he is paid to sit and wait for the ride and he is paid for the completion of the trip...conway drivers have been terminated for not running legal..I did not witness any part of thid accident but will bet any amount that hours of service is the one thing that will not be in question,in this wreck...we as drivers need to understand these posts are read by others than just drivers and the public already thinks bad enough of us...does anyone remember that show on 20 20(I think it was 20/20) KILLER TRUCKS
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I have never been told that I could not take my breaks,and thier is no law that says a driver must take his breaks all the law states is we can not work more than 14 hrs from punch to punch and we as drivers need to stop trying to investigate this accident,as one said there is more here than meets the eye,nothing ticks me off more than when a dispatcher trys to drive my truck from his desk,so in my opinion we should stop trying to investigate what happened here from a computer...5 people have lost thier lives and more than likely a driver will lose his career.So with that being said I send my prayers and thoughts to all involved...may God bless them all
Agreed....And I will not even entertain Mikey's thoughts on this...Way out of bounds, Mikey...The last thing I say to every driver leaving the FAC is "Safe Home"...That's all any of us want for every driver..
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I run hard!! But i run safe.. If i am tired i stop to sleep if im hungry i stop to eat.if i do not feel well i stop.no one has ever said a thing to me about it .just do your job well and safe.also i have never driven a truck at conway that was not safe nor would i.
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And I can find things to beat up management on but I can honestly I don't have 1 complaint about conway safety they have never even asked me to do something unsafe or illegal. Nor would they. If the weather is bad or you're not feeling well they understand that the frieght will be late
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An on-line report notes that this Conway freight driver pled guilty to 5 speeding tickets in the last 10 years.
However the company has cooperated,and this driver has not been found at fault in this crash so far.
Trucker in fatal crash has several violations :: Lake County :: Post-Tribune

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Pushed too hard to meet schedules impossible to meet will always result in tragic situations.
It also has been said he came over a blind hill upon the previous accident.
I have witnessed Con-Way doubles "driving" hard along Chicago area highways. This I feel is the result of management pushing drivers to the limit. Con-Way needs to visit it's policies and kept the drivers and the public safe.
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