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Old 04-01-2008, 05:47 PM
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Default the only way to lower fuel costs

going on strike or not buying fuel will not do anything.

Oil companies do not make fuel they sell it to the refineries which sell it to a wholesale supplier which sell it to a gas station which sell it to us.

Everytime it is sold someone makes a profit and the goverment gets there tax from them over 50% of the price of fuel goes to the govt.

It is all done on percentages so if the price of a barrell of oil goes up by $1 the oil company is going to make a certian profit (most cooompanies use 30%)they will raise there price $1.30 when they sell to the refineries, now the refinery will have to sell that barrell to a supplier for $1.69 and the supplier will have to sell that barrell for $ 2.97

Each company or person that the barrell of oil transfers through will add there 30% profit to the cost of the material, that is why the cost goes up so fast.

So the govt is the one who profits the most from a barrell of oil.

The only way we can change this is through a PAC political action committee which I think OOIDA is. we should all join them and help them get in bed with the politicians and show them we are united and are willing to vote accordingly to who is will help us.

Just like farmers have done and get subsidised when crops fail and they get paid not to grow certian crops, also seniors have formed a pac called the aarp, progun people have the nra.

What a PAC can acomplish is have taxes removed from diesel. Or fuel rebates.

Every industry has a PAC, This is the only way.

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I was watching the News today and the big oil companies are having to talk. Geeze it seems with Profit they are making why do they need to have the Gov. TAX CUTS that they do?

The talks today are to decide, (from what they say) if they should Take Away the Tax Cuts the oil Companies are recieving.

Yes they should after all they don't need them, they are making BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF $$ in Profit.

The reason for the Gov tax cuts to being with was to HELP the Oil Companies out. Ok I think the oil companies are doing more than just fine now....TAKE AWAY THEIR TAX CUTS. geeze!
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going on strike or not buying fuel will not do anything.

Oil companies do not make fuel they sell it to the refineries which sell it to a wholesale supplier which sell it to a gas station which sell it to us.

Everytime it is sold someone makes a profit and the goverment gets there tax from them over 50% of the price of fuel goes to the govt.

It is all done on percentages so if the price of a barrell of oil goes up by $1 the oil company is going to make a certian profit (most cooompanies use 30%)they will raise there price $1.30 when they sell to the refineries, now the refinery will have to sell that barrell to a supplier for $1.69 and the supplier will have to sell that barrell for $ 2.97

Each company or person that the barrell of oil transfers through will add there 30% profit to the cost of the material, that is why the cost goes up so fast.

So the govt is the one who profits the most from a barrell of oil.

The only way we can change this is through a PAC political action committee which I think OOIDA is. we should all join them and help them get in bed with the politicians and show them we are united and are willing to vote accordingly to who is will help us.

Just like farmers have done and get subsidised when crops fail and they get paid not to grow certian crops, also seniors have formed a pac called the aarp, progun people have the nra.

What a PAC can acomplish is have taxes removed from diesel. Or fuel rebates.

Every industry has a PAC, This is the only way.

Political action committee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now that's funny!!OOIDA$45 Membership and ZIP support today!!PREZ JIM JOHNSON $850,000 per year salary for ZIP support. You funny, man!
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what is your suggestion? Every industry has a political action committee, this is how things get done.
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what is your suggestion? Every industry has a political action committee, this is how things get done.
"this is how things get done".

"This"(calling OOIDA a legitimate PAC) is how everything stays the same!!! My question (not just to you--because I used to believe that same thing) but to everybody ...is what has the only PAC (OOIDA) really done for you? President Jim Johnson and his mouthpiece lawyer have done NOTHING compared to the dollars $45 X 160,000 members = $7,200,000 per year (of which JJ collects $850,000 yearly as salary). They have hired a Washington DC lawfirm to "protest" on your behalf, while raking in big dollars on the backs of drivers that are forced to "protest" on their own! Where is OOIDA today. Sure the hell not talking to the media (like the Puerto Rican drivers on FoxNews yesterday). Oh, I remember now, they sent out 1 letter labeling you just another "consumer". If you advocate forming a PAC where the President recieves THE AVERAGE DRIVERS WAGE PER YEAR, and puts in the same number of hours doing what they love (lobbying Congress), then I agree with part of your assessment. The owner of this board has accomplished MORE than OOIDA with far less sucker money (sorry, I cant think of a more polite but equally descriptive word). I have more respect for this accomplishment, than that of OOIDA!) Does OOIDA really care what you think, or just about $850,000 saleries for themselves???
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I was watching the News today and the big oil companies are having to talk. Geeze it seems with Profit they are making why do they need to have the Gov. TAX CUTS that they do?

The talks today are to decide, (from what they say) if they should Take Away the Tax Cuts the oil Companies are recieving.

Yes they should after all they don't need them, they are making BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF $$ in Profit.

The reason for the Gov tax cuts to being with was to HELP the Oil Companies out. Ok I think the oil companies are doing more than just fine now....TAKE AWAY THEIR TAX CUTS. geeze!
The oil execs should get some balls and tell congress that if they want prices to go down then build more refineries and allow more oil drilling in the US. Like Alaska or of the coast. Or have only one formulation of gas acroos the country. That will bring prices down some.
Of course congress won't do anything it's more fun to complain than accomplish something. If they would stay out of our lives things will get better i.e. keeping more of your hard earned money!
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