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Old 05-12-2009, 01:43 PM
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Unhappy Can you cancel/surrender your CDL??

Let me start by saying, I went to a well known, low end trucking school that hires you after training. I got my class A and went on to the road with my mentor, about 2 weeks into it. My mentor was arrested after his court date. (Not driving related). While I waited for his return, I went out for a few beers at a local casino around 5pm, after missing the city bus at 10pm, I slept at the bus stop until 6am to ride back to the truck, went into the truck to go back to sleep until 9 am. I woke up called my employer and asked them what I should do since my mentor wasn't going to be back until the next day. They sent a driver to pick me up and take me back to the terminal and to assign me another mentor. The driver came and acted like he couldn't take me because he didn't have enough hours, so he left. I get a call from my employer and they asked me if I knew why the driver didn't take me. I said, I had no idea and she told me that the driver said I smelled like alcohol. I explained I had a few beers the night before. NO test was given. My mentor gets back the next day and his manager wanted us to go back to the terminal to sort things out. My employer terminated me because of company policy of consuming alcohol within 12 hours of being on company property. I remember in orientation, the DOT rule of 4 hours. Anyway...there's nothing I can do..it's an AT-WILL employer.

Can I cancel/surrender my CDL and start all over again?

What can or can't my employer say on my D.A.C. report?

Any advice would greatly be appreciated.
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:27 PM
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Let me start by saying, I went to a well known, low end trucking school that hires you after training. I got my class A and went on to the road with my mentor, about 2 weeks into it. My mentor was arrested after his court date. (Not driving related). While I waited for his return, I went out for a few beers at a local casino around 5pm, after missing the city bus at 10pm, I slept at the bus stop until 6am to ride back to the truck, went into the truck to go back to sleep until 9 am. I woke up called my employer and asked them what I should do since my mentor wasn't going to be back until the next day. They sent a driver to pick me up and take me back to the terminal and to assign me another mentor. The driver came and acted like he couldn't take me because he didn't have enough hours, so he left. I get a call from my employer and they asked me if I knew why the driver didn't take me. I said, I had no idea and she told me that the driver said I smelled like alcohol. I explained I had a few beers the night before. NO test was given. My mentor gets back the next day and his manager wanted us to go back to the terminal to sort things out. My employer terminated me because of company policy of consuming alcohol within 12 hours of being on company property. I remember in orientation, the DOT rule of 4 hours. Anyway...there's nothing I can do..it's an AT-WILL employer.

Can I cancel/surrender my CDL and start all over again?

What can or can't my employer say on my D.A.C. report?

Any advice would greatly be appreciated.
Ok, you asked.

Yes, you can surrender your CDL, and go back to a Class "C" or whatever they call a car drivers' license in your home state.

Problem is that you dont need to do so for these reasons:

A: You didnt' get arrested for anything, so you are in the clear legally and DOT-wise.

B: All 50 states have an agreement to use the same DL# number, so even if you got rid of your drivers license
and applied for a non-driving identification card, it will still read "X0348512" or what ever number is on the CDL license that you have in your possession now.

C: You can bet that if you were with any of the big-boyz, like Swift, it's going to be on your USIS/DAC printout soon. They all report to USIS/DAC, and another outfit called Choicepoint will pick your info up too, nowadays.

OK, so now that you understand that you can rebutt it and tell your side of the story, but chances are in this economic climate you wont be driving for the big-boyz anytime soon.

If I were in your shoes I would damn glad that I didnt get picked up on an alcohol-related charge, even being drunk in public. These days everyone is getting tight with alcohol use, no matter where you are, except at home.

The cops pick up people leaving the city by air, near where I live, on "drunk-in-public" charges coming out of the airport bar, trying to board thier flight, for petes sake. I wish I was kidding, but I am serious. Alcohol is way too easy to detect.

I wont preach to you about drinking alcohol, but if you really want to be a driver in todays' trucking business, you need to consume it at home and/or on your own time, else you are risking your very job these days, as you found out the hard way.

I wish you well and I hope you learned from your mistake in judgement. The Man upstairs knows we all make them, but if we don't learn from them they are simply wasted.

Good luck to you, driver!

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Old 05-12-2009, 08:28 PM
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ALL COMPANIES are at will unless there is a Contract signed signifying specifics, such as a member of a Union. This is generally stated CLEARLY upon all applications.

Your post indicates to me that you may very well not be driving for any company very soon because companies generally listen to other companies (like Judges listen to Cops) before listening to the Applicant(s)/(Defendants).
With all the qualified drivers available and unable to secure positions driving you may very well have blown your chance of getting in a door.

Having a class A license is having the responsibility to keep it in good standing as with any other driving privilege license.
Loosing the class of license is easily done yet reacquiring it is not quickly performed.
Since you already now have it, KEEP IT!!
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Let me start by saying, I went to a well known, low end trucking school that hires you after training. I got my class A and went on to the road with my mentor, about 2 weeks into it. My mentor was arrested after his court date. (Not driving related). While I waited for his return, I went out for a few beers at a local casino around 5pm, after missing the city bus at 10pm, I slept at the bus stop until 6am to ride back to the truck, went into the truck to go back to sleep until 9 am. I woke up called my employer and asked them what I should do since my mentor wasn't going to be back until the next day. They sent a driver to pick me up and take me back to the terminal and to assign me another mentor. The driver came and acted like he couldn't take me because he didn't have enough hours, so he left. I get a call from my employer and they asked me if I knew why the driver didn't take me. I said, I had no idea and she told me that the driver said I smelled like alcohol. I explained I had a few beers the night before. NO test was given. My mentor gets back the next day and his manager wanted us to go back to the terminal to sort things out. My employer terminated me because of company policy of consuming alcohol within 12 hours of being on company property. I remember in orientation, the DOT rule of 4 hours. Anyway...there's nothing I can do..it's an AT-WILL employer.

Can I cancel/surrender my CDL and start all over again?

What can or can't my employer say on my D.A.C. report?

Any advice would greatly be appreciated.
forget about the 4 hour rule........companies HAVE THEIR OWN RULES.......

as for being on "company property", that truck constitutes company property, NO MATTER WHERE ITS PARKED.

do not turn in your license, that made/makes no sense whatsoever....

you spent "some" money to get it, now throw it away........??

although, i too hardly feel right now that you are employable for the time being.

you should have been told in school, the laws regarding drugs/alcohol are even taken into place when you operate your PERSONAL vehicle as well.......your state MAY HAVE a .08 for your car........but if you hold a CDL..........you are held to the .04.......IN YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE.....

so i DO HOPE you ain't gonna go and drink, EVEN one beer makes you legally under the influence.....and you already had proven you drink more than one drink...............

and ALL employers are "at will".........to hire you.......or FIRE YOU.....

this WILL SHOW UP in your DAC/USIS file. this WILL SHOW UP in your company employment files, although, your employer isn't to give any specific reason for you being fired or terminated, due to a possible lawsuit.

they can only basically say, "employee was terminated", or "employee left our employ".............

when a NEW employer runs a DAC/USIS on you, and they WILL........all they will see is that you were terminated as well, but NO SPECIFIC reason(s)...........

however, you WILL BE ASKED........

i'd suggest you try and say, "due to the economy, they had to downsize, and since i was last to be hired, they let me go first".........

don't get dumbed up again (like you did when you drank) by admitting to the ordeal you went through........

and should you EVER do this again because your mentor or WHATEVER circumstances interfere with your training, i hope you lose BIG TIME by getting caught with the engine running, or you in the drivers seat, idling......that's, OUI........

best of luck to you, and LEARN FROM ALL OF THIS.........
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I think you should surrender your CDL forever.
What the heck kind of truck story teller are you?



start out with
"this is no bs"

My mentor got hammered on tequilla and got in a fight with a lap dancer at a strip club
He was arrested and the cops were looking for me too
so I jumped out the men's room window
I went down to the casino and started pounding some Jack and Cokes
around 9 pm they threw me out of the casino
I bought a six pack and went to the bus station
I met some girl there who took me to party
I have no idea what happened after that
I woke up in the truck
with an older woman who was snoring
At 9 oclock there was a knock on the door
by the relief driver
He said"hey that's my wife!"
and drove away

please do better in the future
sincerely
G. Coffee

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Old 05-12-2009, 10:33 PM
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I do commend you for adding a bus in your story though

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