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07-03-2009, 03:22 PM
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| | Training video reports 2 out of 10 drivers are sleepy. | 
07-03-2009, 04:34 PM
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This story irritates me...even if a driver is within their legal hours and gets drowsy, they have a responsibility to get off the road and fix the problem. At OD they make sure we know that if we are becoming drowsy to get off the road, take a nap, walk around a bit, exercise...whatever, but do something to make sure you are safe and alert before getting behind the wheel again.
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07-04-2009, 04:04 PM
| | Naturally Oozing | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North of Columbia
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| | Of the 25,000 trucks stopped a year, 19 percent of drivers lie in log books or do not keep track of their rest periods, which is a small sample of the more than 7 million trucks that travel through Mississippi every year, MDOT officials said.
“They might have put that they were asleep at 2 a.m., but they bought fuel at 2 a.m. 100 miles away so they weren't asleep...” WHO doesn't or has not done such as above??
Correct baiano, there IS (ARE) NO REASON(S) for these type of wrecks and or fatalities.
These are caused by INCOMPETENT drivers that appear to believe their job is somehow in jeopardy if they do not get somewhere in some allotted time frame/allowance.
They fail to understand that a late pick up/delivery is better than no pick up/delivery.
They have never learned how to manage their time and after a fatality wreck they no longer have to be concerned. The good news is they will never again drive a Class 6, 7 or 8 vehicle thereby saving another family from their Truck driving incompetence.
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07-04-2009, 06:50 PM
| | Veteran | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: lebanon,pa
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I'll decide when I'm tired, and will rest accordingly. I don't need to be told, nor will I shut down when I'm not tired, just because the FMCA rules don't allow for split sleeper birth or driver descretion. As usual people in Washington (Often influenced by the ATA and other uninformed Special Interest Groups) think they can regulate a driver better than he/she can regulate themself. The whole HOS situation is a joke, if they were concerned about safety they would look into the payment structure for drivers and loading/unloading practices of shippers and receivers,or immoral dispatchers and owners. Instead they worry about, Sleep apnea or if a driver meets a cookie cutter BMI ! (And then create more hoops for drivers and stand-up operators to jump through with little or no effect on safety.) Also,states should provide more rest areas with truck parking. These bastards want our taxes, tolls, and fees but do nothing to warrant such tribute...... "Don't ask me about my logbook and I won't tell you no lies"......
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07-04-2009, 07:21 PM
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The thing that some people don't realize I think is that a company cannot fire you for keeping your log legal, if you are not using your time wisely while on duty is another story. But if you are running your 11 hour driver seat time daily, and remaining within your 14 hour limitation, they cannot ask any more. Luckily I work for a company that doesn't allow us to go over legal and keeps track of where we are at so it's not a problem for me, but I have heard plenty of stories of loads given that need to go 1200 miles in 24 hours. Quote: |
I don't need to be told, nor will I shut down when I'm not tired, just because the FMCA rules don't allow for split sleeper birth or driver descretion.
| I agree with you as long as you are actually getting plenty of rest so that you are not a danger on the road. I think they should allow accumulation of rest periods during the 24 hour period. Problem is some drivers would not regulate themselves properly if given that much freedom.
Over all I think the hours of service regs are pretty fair and should be followed until someone can come up with a better way that can actually be enforced.
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07-04-2009, 08:58 PM
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If your out on the road, who sleeps for ten hours? Even if you do that should be your choice! I think if you could split your time off evenly or even maybe a minimum of 7 hrs and the 3hrs, that would give you a chance for a long period off and one short period for a nap. Plus if your driving you can only log 11 hrs . so that would still three hours that could be used for x-tra rest, meals, or pretrip/fueling, etc.... The people that are truly out running their logs, will always be found out... But, as with many needless laws, it is easy to pass blanket legislation rather than enforce the true violators. and as I said in earlier posts,we have organizations such as the ATA, and Mothers of Tired Truckers, and opportunistic lawers to thank for over regulation of our industry.............
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