Right on red violation. Tried to make the turn on yellow, was .9 sec late, got ticket

NickT916 · #1 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 08:11 AM

Hello, im a class A driver, havent had a ticket in some 5-6 years, just few months ago go a ticket for going 45 in a 35 zone, however, everyone goes 40-45 there because its a 5 lane street with hardly any traffic... i tried to fight it but lost. I believe for class A drivers its 2 points? fines double, no traffic school... very unfair!!! im shocked there was nothing that could be done, would a bad female driver deserve only a .5 point, since she has less experience than i supposedly do?... this was on my personal vehicle, the rules must change!!!

Anyways... now just couple weeks ago i was making a right turn, i was going about 25mph into a turn, and tried to rush to make the light before it turned red. obviously i could not have slammed on the brakes on the SUV going 25 mph into a turn, otherwise i would have flipped it, so i had no choice but to keep going, The picture shows the red light was .9 sec red as i made the turn, i was very upset as i made the turn safely, and there is no vehicle in the world that can make accross an intersection in .9 seconds and hit me.

i want to fight this!!! i need some help please!! i sold the vehicle 10 days after the red light violation,
i dont have a front license plate so how can they match my face with the plate on the front if i dont have one?
who would i fight in court against if there was no officer that pulled me over?
dont the red light cameras count as speed traps that are not legal?
do i have a chance at winning this?
i need all the help i can get, i cant have 4 points on my record in a few months, thats to much :( insurance and fines, and its really unfair, i dont know what to do guys

bellow i have a video of my violation, yes technically i ran the red light, but dont i have a case for no license plate on the front? would the camera operator have to be present in court to prove the case, not having the car anymore would help me in this case? illegal speed trap argument?

bellow the video i have included the pictures that the camera took, the front picture doesnt even show the front bumper, so they either edited it to not show the front plate so i dont notice and not fight with that argument, or just bad picture taken because i was going 25mph into a turn, any advice would be appreciated, i cant afford another stupid ticket again :(

kboomarang · #2 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 08:48 AM

Save your effort, you were caught, you ran a red light, you were not turning from the proper lane,..... going to fast to stop without rolling it, now thats a good defense. Good Luck

truckinusa · #3 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 09:45 AM

check this out: http://www.highwayrobbery.net/

or get a lawyer

packrat · #4 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 10:05 AM

most states dont give points because there is on officer, it is just a fine, thats the way it is in north carolina.How can they give poniys if they dont know who is driving.What state did this happen?

truckinusa · #5 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by packrat

most states dont give points because there is on officer, it is just a fine, thats the way it is in north carolina.How can they give poniys if they dont know who is driving.What state did this happen?

You aren't from California are you? They give points.

CDL holder · #6 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 12:12 PM

Yeah, in Ohio and a lot of other states it is a civil violation and not a moving violation. This is how they dance around the protections that the constitution was supposed to give us. It looks like CA only gives one point for the red-light cam--that won't sting as much as an officer-written ticket.

Now that most of us have come to accept robots writing tickets then I think it would be a lot safer if all vehicles communicated with the government and self-reported violations. You want to drive a car? You must install the transponder and have an active credit card on file. This way, when you speed it will automatically deduct from your account. Fail to use a signal? Immediate fine.

I really don't see how anyone who supports these robot tickets can object to the on-board safety system. After all, it will give us safer roads and will help the government with their funding shortfalls.

At the very least we need speed limiters on cars. A chase in Dayton last week reached speeds of 100 mph on surface streets. I think the only reason they don't speed limit cars is that it would mean fewer tickets and for less amounts.