Supervisors get bad news today... - Page 2

Northern Flash · #7 (**permalink**) 10-10-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IBaCFer

What you should realize is, the management on this level has nothing to do with pay cuts. They are victims the same as you. Money is coming out of their pockets the same as yours and they don't like it any better than you do. They did not have the opportunity to vote like the teamsters.

You are correct in saying that they do not have any control over the concessions, from a Corporate level. But, where you are incorrect is when they run their operations like they don't have a dime invested. When we see constant inefficiencies every day, how can you not think that they are responsible for lost revenue every day? If the terminals were run efficiently, the company wouldn't be hurting for cash the way they are. Yes, Corporate has made huge financial mistakes, but our terminals running efficiently does directly impact the company's bottom line, which is the responsibility of the terminal managers. When the company's bottom line is bad, we all get punished with pay and benefit concessions.

scottman920 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Flash

Our TM was blubbering to some of us about this new "day off, without pay" policy. We told him that since management are the ones that are throwing our pay concessions down the tubes everyday, they should be the ones to sacrifice. It was a short conversation.

From what i am hearing they management has to take this to get to the 15 percent cut like we did . The only problem is its a total of 40 hours, one day off a month for five months. Now how is this equal to are cut? i would like to think that the union is giong to check on this? they are saying after the five months no more 5 percent cut for management. This is bs .

freefromdat · #9 (**permalink**) 10-13-2009, 11:10 PM

In defense of the supervisors, it was my experience (after 13 years in buffalo)
That the supers were treated only slightly better than us, these people had management
Breathing down their backs everyday because they couldn’t reach imposable goals. YES Some of them were

holes, but most of them were people just like us, stuck in this

job that they hate with nowhere to go but down while trying to babysit a bunch of backstabbers. I wouldn’t touch that job with a ten foot pole. im not a kiss

fact is i got to know some of these people as people, some of them confided how bad it is.

Stimpy · #10 (**permalink**) 10-13-2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by freefromdat

In defense of the supervisors, it was my experience (after 13 years in buffalo)
That the supers were treated only slightly better than us, these people had management
Breathing down their backs everyday because they couldn’t reach imposable goals. YES Some of them were

holes, but most of them were people just like us, stuck in this

job that they hate with nowhere to go but down while trying to babysit a bunch of backstabbers. I wouldn’t touch that job with a ten foot pole. im not a kiss

fact is i got to know some of these people as people, some of them confided how bad it is.

When I worked up there (Buffalo) as a Utility driver Lenny was my super. He was pretty cool very laid back. He would ask you to do something and leave you alone... he was one of the better dock supers I have had.

tmdeee · #11 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by IBaCFer

What you should realize is, the management on this level has nothing to do with pay cuts. They are victims the same as you. Money is coming out of their pockets the same as yours and they don't like it any better than you do. They did not have the opportunity to vote like the teamsters.

What vote "opportunity"? Oh, you must mean we got to vote and vote until the Company and our Teamster leaders (one and the same) got the result they wanted. We just happened to give them the vote they wanted the first time around.

scottman920 · #12 (**permalink**) 10-14-2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by freefromdat

In defense of the supervisors, it was my experience (after 13 years in buffalo)
That the supers were treated only slightly better than us, these people had management
Breathing down their backs everyday because they couldn’t reach imposable goals. YES Some of them were

holes, but most of them were people just like us, stuck in this

job that they hate with nowhere to go but down while trying to babysit a bunch of backstabbers. I wouldn’t touch that job with a ten foot pole. im not a kiss

fact is i got to know some of these people as people, some of them confided how bad it is.

Now im not saying i dont like all the supers.We have a couple of good guys and a couple of ones most of us cant stand.The point im trying to make is hoffa came out and said with this next cut we are demanding equal cuts between management and us , now we find out that their 5 percent cut is going to be a total of 40 hours pay.We have to go what another 3 years , its just not right and the union should demand they take the cut for as long as we do .