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Old 10-30-2009, 09:43 AM
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We had a tough time getting our BA let alone the steward to enforce this.....

Section 6. Overtime
On a weekly basis, the Employer shall be permitted to work the active seniority board 25%
of the straight time hours in overtime. In the event the Employer exceeds the 25%
overtime allowance, the number of overtime hours in excess of the allowance will be
applied in the next following week for determining the number of employees to recall from
lay-off.
For example, if the Employer has 120 employees on the seniority board with 100 actively
working and 20 laid-off, the Employer shall be permitted 4000 hours straight time hours
plus 1000 hours overtime (25% of 4000) for a total of 5000 hours to be worked that week by
the active seniority board. If during that week, the Employer actually worked the 100
active employees a total of 5600 hours, there would be 600 hours in excess of the 25%
overtime allowance. The 600 hours would be divided by 50 (40 straight time hours plus
25% of 40 or 10) which equals 12 employees to be recalled from lay-off in the week
following the violation of the 25% overtime allowance.


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In my opinion...Good luck in trying to get this enforced.... there was way to many greed people to allow this to happen. Screw the junior man!!!
Hey Stimpy, If your grievance is filed properly your greedy drivers are your best asset. Every hour they suck up and work and all the Bull side deals they make in the corner office to pad they're own paychecks can be used to the advantage of every laid off driver.
Every terminal has the same group of hour mongers sucking the clock like they're hooked up to an IV pole. At my terminal we have the Fab 5, they squeeze and suck every minute and hour out of every day, not caring how many jobs they're helping abolish. But on the positive side, These same group of drivers were the source of the OT that allowed the grievances to be filed and the many thousands of dollars to be paid out to the drivers who were not called back each day.
So ironically, the greed continues, which is kind of funny because these drivers think they're cutting a fat hog in the, but they don't realize what an embarassment they are to the rest of us, and they're are the best friend to the steward filing OT grievances. Boomer
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:00 AM
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Up here in GY, we filed grievances for violations of the 25% rule back in May of 2008! Yes, that's a year and a half ago. Not one of them have been paid yet. We were told back then that there were grievances filed from several different terminals, and that the companies response was that if they had to pay out all of those grievances, they would be forced to shut the doors. My question would be this......If there is language in the contract that was written to bring back laid off workers, and stop the excessive overtime, why would you (as a company) continue to violate the contract? They were warned about their violations, yet they continued to violate the 25% rule, which continued to add to their potential grievance bill. Instead of stopping the violations, they made the decision to let their bill get bigger. Now they complain about the bill being too large to handle? I'm glad to see that some of the grievances are being paid, but there are still many more to go. But, I still can't believe that this company could be so stupid that they continued to commit the violations, knowing that they would (should) lose in the long run. It seems that stopping the violations would have been cheaper for them.

But then again, not much makes sense around here nowadays.
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We have a problem of senior men being denied overtime when there are junior men on overtime working the dock. (the senior men usually work until they only have 8 hours left on Friday and it makes the TM mad) There is going to be quite a pile of grievances but the TM was rumored to remark "the union is weak we are not changing anything."
It will be interesting to see if we get the same no money response that the folks at LO are getting. From past experience I bet we hear some excuse to drop it.
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Hey Stimpy, If your grievance is filed properly your greedy drivers are your best asset. Every hour they suck up and work and all the Bull side deals they make in the corner office to pad they're own paychecks can be used to the advantage of every laid off driver.
Every terminal has the same group of hour mongers sucking the clock like they're hooked up to an IV pole. At my terminal we have the Fab 5, they squeeze and suck every minute and hour out of every day, not caring how many jobs they're helping abolish. But on the positive side, These same group of drivers were the source of the OT that allowed the grievances to be filed and the many thousands of dollars to be paid out to the drivers who were not called back each day.
So ironically, the greed continues, which is kind of funny because these drivers think they're cutting a fat hog in the, but they don't realize what an embarassment they are to the rest of us, and they're are the best friend to the steward filing OT grievances. Boomer
We have these same clock suckers that complain to their management pals that we have too many drivers working if their overtime gets cut. They go in the office and chirp about not having enough work. They could care less about the bottom guys starving, as long as they get theirs.

And for anyone on here that would like to defend this greedy practice of starving out the junior guys, while you live high off the hog.....feel free to expose yourself.

Don't bother with the "well I have the seniority" B.S. I understand all that. And yes seniority is all that we have. But, to starve out a brother because of your greed is unacceptable. I also understand the odd instances where some people have a legitimate excuse for sucking up the overtime. But, here at my terminal, there are several cases of pure greed....plain and simple.
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We have a problem of senior men being denied overtime when there are junior men on overtime working the dock. (the senior men usually work until they only have 8 hours left on Friday and it makes the TM mad) There is going to be quite a pile of grievances but the TM was rumored to remark "the union is weak we are not changing anything."
It will be interesting to see if we get the same no money response that the folks at LO are getting. From past experience I bet we hear some excuse to drop it.
guys you have to remember we are in bad times. at usf red star they said the same thing. at the end we got every thing they owed us. no job no pension nothing left. paid all the bills and closed down after one day strike. thanks usf.
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I see the union has a equation as to the people called back to work using an over time formula.Is there any formula as to the number of road drivers that a terminal should have working based on the amount of freight bills they generate?
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