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Old 08-20-2008, 02:57 PM
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A'men Metal Head.
Why are casuals working the docks from 9:pm until 6:am at SVT? At the same time SVT Brothers are complaining about UE's working the dock moving non-velocity freight. There needs to be language that limits the number of hours casuals can work. Drivers took UE positions because of low road/city hours. Why are Brothers complaining about other Brothers when casuals are getting 60+ hours a week? YRC isn't hiring any non CDL (dock) employees. This Union/Brotherhood needs to keep ALL work performed by Brothers. We need to get the casuals off the docks and out of the trucks.
Don't forget; YRC writes your paycheck. Always give YRC a good days work for a good days pay.
I got crapped on by Detroit Local 247 (not freight) back in '94. But our drivers got an instant $3-$4/hour raise if they did their job. $18/hour +/- back in '94 was dam good. Local Prez. Joe didn't like my for the Brothers negotiating. Best 6 months I ever spent getting fired.
So now I'm at YRC and I see casuals getting more hours than Brothers. WTF. This is supposed to be a Brotherhood gentlemen. Lets make sure our Brothers are working. Always giving YRC an honest day's work.

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Old 08-20-2008, 07:46 PM
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I know I am not the brother you addressed, however let me take a stab at pointing out what I believe the major problems are with the contract.

1) although I agree that the UE will help gain some competetive edge, there was no need to give the company a blank check on it's utilization... it should have been capped at least long enough to experience the ramifications it was going to have on the membership.

2) at my local the Sec/Treas and Pres. told us all kind of things that weren't true about this contract and I have heard that same thing from an overwhelming number of Teamsters from different locals... whatever the position you are in let you be misled by your local officials, in the future I would suggest reading the language for yourself and get involved with some people in your local who do just that and decipher exactly what is trying to be sold to us.

3) while this is a little off topic I think it goes to your concerns over the protection of our pensions... why is UPS freight not in the NMFA and/or the pension?... why was UPS parcel allowed to withdraw?

4) for the first time ever the NMFA allows part-timers... they will be used to diminish overtime and to slow the hiring of full timers to jobs that pay living wages and benefits.

5) and the grand-daddy of all... this NMFA allows Teamster work to be snatched away and giving to non-union subcontractors... seek out and ask some of the line-haul brothers and sisters at Yellow in K.C. about the loss of scheduled team runs to USF Glen Moore... and look out in Chicago and Dallas, Glen Moore is putting on a massive recruitment campaign in those cities.

finally, while I am not a TDU guy, don't fall into the trap that many Local Officials have set: " if a member questions anything we do, just call them TDU " Question authority, Question intentions and most of all Question the provisons of labor agreements that dictate our future
The UE change of operations spells out(at least at ABF) the anticipated increases in membership. There will be an increase, immediately, and more later. Whether or not this comes to fruition, remains to be seen. I do know there are several road domiciles throughout our system that have been told to keep hiring road drivers until they are told to hold off.

I will call your Sec-Treas tomorrow, Tom M at 200 to affirm your allegations as to the invalidity discussion of the NMFA. I have his home number. My local union Sec-Treas and my business agent are on the NMFA negotiating committees. Both for the National Agreement and the Supplements. I have no reason not to trust them or take their word. They have not lied to me yet.

UPSF is a whole different topic. I do not know the reasons for them not being put into the NMFA or the pension plans. So if I comment on that would be speculation on my part.

Part time dock only, right? Four hour maximum shift?

Look, if those guys are losing team bid runs to the approved purchased transportation companies, file a grievance immediately. This service is simply a small percentage of freight that would have gone to the rails. Any deviation, or loss of Union jobs need to be addressed by that committee that oversees that portion of the contract.

While the debate on these issues was argued before the contract was voted on, our leadership at 710 welcomed questions and answered them intelligently and precisely. Everything they promised has been the truth. No one was cut off at the microphone, and everyone that had an issue was heard. I cannot understand why the BS continues to this day.

If you or your people are being violated, report the problem now, not next week and have nads enough to file a grievance. When you file any grievance have the proper evidence to back up your claims. Who what where why, trailer numbers, pro numbers, photographs, et cetera. Let the grievance take the normal course, and allow it to get to the venue designed to address the complaint.

I think we are fortunate to have an Executive Board at 710 that recognizes that it is better to have the truthful facts available for our membership. I question everything that I don't understand, and get an honest answer, without being labeled, nor being belittled. This labor market, in all segments, has an ever changing agenda for quality and profit. If the companies we work for are unable to compete successfully in the marketplace, guess where we will be working in the near future. Let these changes take their course, and certainly do not allow your employer to violate the agreement without opposition. Hopefully this more competitive plan will help our companies prosper. I would rather give a little than lose everything. Especially when the little I give will eventually pay dividends for the Brothership in the long run. We cannot move forward if we look to the past for solid guidance.
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Old 08-20-2008, 07:53 PM
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Just to be brief Met, the new language in the UE and Substitute service has provisions for enforcement.

The part timer portion of the agreement has language and formula to convert part time employees to full time. Just so the companies do not abuse the provision.
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Old 08-20-2008, 07:59 PM
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(I'm a seven year Teamster...going to pay your way...(you got yours)... am I going to get mine, slick?
I have 12 more years to go. I am perfectly capable to pay my own way. If I got mine, do you think I would be wasting my time online instead of fishing?
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:24 PM
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Apparently your are misguided. How can you call your self a Teamster when you compliment a contract that sacrificed some of you Brothers because you got what you wanted. Me, Me, Me. That is our biggest problem, the Me, Me, Me people that do not take the time to educate themselves on the complete issue.

Let me tell you something. Before you go running your mouth check your facts.

You aint got an effen clue.

I was around for the FIRST effen NMFA contract and yeah there is changes, and no you aint losin nothin. Cry cry cry, you effen holland guys do nothin but crrrry. you probably spend time in so bend, at the holland fight and cry club.

I just retired after 50 years fighting for this union and you dont know what it is to sacrifice ship. when you have broken bones and stitches to show that you fought the fight so you crybabies could "sacrifice"

anybody that says they are givin up anything on this contract probably never even read the language.

get your facts straight then find out what it really means, by asking questions of people who really know what the eff is goin on
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:26 PM
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(you got yours)... am I going to get mine, slick?
I got mine.
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