Teamsters stance on illegal immigration, workers/members.

[p&d reject]

Originally Posted by Beanstalk

That is exactly why the union wouldn't represent illegals. The right to bargain is there to drive up ( or at least maintain ) a specific trades standard of living. Without that said right, even union free employees would suffer .... and would perhaps be making ten bucks an hour to drive a truck. Don't you see that it's the in the companies best interest to lower the benefits packages of their employees for the sake of profit ? How much is too much and when will it stop ? And, are you willing to sit by and let it happen ? What's scary is that you seem to encourage it ... but hey, you ARE entitled to your opinion and I respect that. I just don't understand it ...

It appears as if they are trying to do just that... http://www.truckingboards.com/trucki...ce-agents.html What gives? Just what is they're stance on illegals?

[nchaka]

Originally Posted by Beanstalk

That is exactly why the union wouldn't represent illegals. The right to bargain is there to drive up ( or at least maintain ) a specific trades standard of living. Without that said right, even union free employees would suffer .... and would perhaps be making ten bucks an hour to drive a truck. Don't you see that it's the in the companies best interest to lower the benefits packages of their employees for the sake of profit ? How much is too much and when will it stop ? And, are you willing to sit by and let it happen ? What's scary is that you seem to encourage it ... but hey, you ARE entitled to your opinion and I respect that. I just don't understand it ...

Some unions will represent Illegal aliens, they just don't ask about citizenship. Just like corporations who hire them. Union leaders are there to increase numbers and their power. Just like the electrical union in Texas who used non-union labor to build the union hall. All to save money.

[Beanstalk]

Originally Posted by p&d reject

It appears as if they are trying to do just that... http://www.truckingboards.com/trucki...ce-agents.html What gives? Just what is they're stance on illegals?

I'm not sure what you're driving at, but here's a quote from the article .....

" There's no question that immigration is a difficult issue. The Teamsters certainly do not endorse unfettered hiring of undocumented workers. That drives wages down and continues this system of fear and intimidation. "

Again, the corporations are the one's that do the hiring, not the unions. It would seem that the companies should be more aware of their hiring practices.

[Beanstalk]

Originally Posted by nchaka

Some unions will represent Illegal aliens, they just don't ask about citizenship. Just like corporations who hire them. Union leaders are there to increase numbers and their power. Just like the electrical union in Texas who used non-union labor to build the union hall. All to save money.

I agree that union leaders want to increase membership. Strength in numbers and solidarity means a better future for you and me. As far as representing illegals, see my above post .......

Also, I'm not aware of the electrical unions hall being built by non union labor. I'd be interested in reading the article if you have a link.

[JustaDriver]

Originally Posted by nchaka

Some unions will represent Illegal aliens, they just don't ask about citizenship. Just like corporations who hire them. Union leaders are there to increase numbers and their power. Just like the electrical union in Texas who used non-union labor to build the union hall. All to save money.

Understand that I am just a driver , and
possibly ignorant on many things . All a long I thought that companies had to follow laws when it came to hiring issues.
Just like unions who represent members.
I also thought that union leaders , from
the bottom up , shop steward to president,
were elected by the members ,and there to
represent the members . One would think
that if , a union hall were built by , and actually owened by the union , it certainly would have used union labor .
Possibly you could eduacate myself and
others on all the above . Perhaps you could also include documentation to back
your statements to the spacific issues I
raised .
Thank You

[p&d reject]

Originally Posted by Beanstalk

I'm not sure what you're driving at, but here's a quote from the article .....

" There's no question that immigration is a difficult issue. The Teamsters certainly do not endorse unfettered hiring of undocumented workers. That drives wages down and continues this system of fear and intimidation. "

Again, the corporations are the one's that do the hiring, not the unions. It would seem that the companies should be more aware of their hiring practices.

More of a question..., What is the unions stance on organizing illegals? {I assume they were aware of this possiblity going in this drive.} How do members feel about this issue, do you see this as a problem/threat? How do labor leaders respond to complaints by members concerning thier attempts to organize illegals. Judging from the statement you quoted, I assume they consider organizing them is good, because once accomplished they are no longer a thread to lowering the industry wage level.