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Old 07-13-2008, 07:48 AM
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thank you you have no cred with me either, so bla bla bla
That was a very enlightening & productive response. I wouldn't have expected anything more from you than that childish bla bla bla & some silly little smiley face.......

As to credibility, I challenge you to prove, with a quote, just 1 lie that I have ever posted...... You know that I can prove at least 3 outright lies that you have posted on this forum. There were more but they were deleted when you were banned.

Why is it that those of you that go out of your way to bash the union are always the ones with little or no credibility? Why is it that you can't post your attacks & carry on a debate based on facts & in an intelligent manner?
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Old 07-13-2008, 08:59 AM
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I guess you will have to call or write the owner of R&L Carriers why he uses this so called by you "Obscure Federal Law" that allows him to not pay overtime... I can't answer for the man.. I guess he does because it is "LEGAL" and he is smart...We are not the only company who uses it
Its not an "Obscure Federal Law" its an obscure loophole in the Federal Overtime Law.

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You in the unions think you are entitled to everything you want, and everybody should just rollover for you.
Its not everything that we want, we think that we are entitled to everything that we already have & have had for may years, long before you & I even started driving a truck. Things that it took union workers many years to earn.
Things that that your greedy employer denies you. Things that we are now in jeopardy of losing because of how the R&L's & Estee's compensate their employees. braceface can you show me 1 new benefit that we asked for & received in the last contract? We are going backwards trying to compete with you guys. The LTL industry is slowly being dragged down to your level, & it appears that you are proud of it.

As our standards are lowered I would thing that in order for your company to maintain it's competitive advantage it will have to drop your wage & benefit package even lower.......... I'll be long gone from the industry so it won't affect me..... You can mess around on here & bash the union all you want, but deep down inside you must realize that everyone in labor will be the losers.
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MY DAMN BRAIN HURTS AFTER READING THE LAST SEVENTEEN PAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!But it's funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It seems interesting that you and braceface find humor in the fact that the complete compensation packages in our industry are slowly going in the wrong direction. This downturn will have a negative impact on any " newbie " that chooses a career in transportation. Aren't you guys concerned about an economic decline in your pocketbook ? I noticed a thread in R&L's forum that discusses an increase in insurance costs and I couldn't believe some folks' flippant attitudes about the fact that their paycheck would be affected. How much is too much ? When will it stop ? Aren't you guys the least bit concerned about the race to the bottom ? I'm sorry, but I don't think it's funny at all ......
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Guess what 2631, your precious unions can't control Mr. Roberts.. Go on back and collect your Welfare, oops, I mean union bennies...If you are tired of my little games, ignore me...
As you continue to fail in your attempts to make overtime pay a union only issue your posts are becoming more ignorant.

My union doesn't control or try to control anyone. I doubt that Mr. Roberts or any of his bottom feeding companies are of any concern to the IBT. I'm sure that they have bigger fish to fry as they move forward with the organizing of FedEx. But I would think the fact that some people like you are happy working for a lot less than us is of some concern to them......You still have not acknowledged the fact that without overtime you had to work approx 185 extra hours last year to make the $70,000 that you guys supposedly made.


You seem to be using the word welfare a lot lately in your ignorant attempts to attack the union. Please explain how welfare has anything to do with the fact that the FedEx's, Conway's & all the union carriers pay their hourly employees overtime & the R&L's & Estee's don't. I think that even usf523's non union Reddaway barn pays overtime.
Welfare:"financial or other assistance to an individual or family from a city, state, or national government"

Just how does that apply to our union contract or the non union "big boys"?

I'll probably have to wait along time for an intellegent response from you, I will be surprised if I get anything more than another ignorant attempt at union bashing along with more of your silly little smiley faces.
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It seems interesting that you and braceface find humor in the fact that the complete compensation packages in our industry are slowly going in the wrong direction. This downturn will have a negative impact on any " newbie " that chooses a career in transportation. Aren't you guys concerned about an economic decline in your pocketbook ? I noticed a thread in R&L's forum that discusses an increase in insurance costs and I couldn't believe some folks' flippant attitudes about the fact that their paycheck would be affected. How much is too much ? When will it stop ? Aren't you guys the least bit concerned about the race to the bottom ? I'm sorry, but I don't think it's funny at all ......
Beanstalk you make a very good point. But be careful not to post it on the R&L forum. rubber duck is okay, he seems very open minded, but braceface would probably have a cow if you were to post anything that is even remotely negative about R&L.
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Help! It's the birth of a child
September 22, 2006
Excerpted from South Carolina Employment Law Letter, written by attorneys at the law firm McNair Law Firm, P.A.
Q: An employee who qualifies for Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) leave has requested intermittent leave to help his wife care for their newborn child. Is he entitled to take intermittent leave?
A: In general, the FMLA can be confusing, and there are often questions on how to comply with the statutory schemes and regulations. When confronted with an FMLA question, you should start the analysis at the beginning. Under the Act, an eligible employee is limited to a total of 12 workweeks of leave during any 12-month period. The leave can be taken for one or more of the following reasons:
  1. the birth of an employee's child and caring for the newborn;
  2. the placement of a child with an employee for adoption or foster care and caring for the child;
  3. to care for an employee's spouse, son, daughter, or parent with a serious health condition; and
  4. an employee's own serious health condition that makes him unable to perform one or more of the essential functions of his job.
Thus, it's clear that an employee is entitled to up to 12 weeks of FMLA leave for the birth of a child. In regard to the birth of a child, however, there are several additional points you should consider.
First, an employee's entitlement to leave for a birth or adoption or foster care placement expires at the end of the 12-month period beginning on the date of the birth or placement unless state law allows or the employer permits leave to be taken for a longer period.
Second, a husband and wife who are eligible for FMLA leave and employed by the same covered employer may be limited to a combined total of 12 weeks of leave during any 12-month period for the birth of their child or the placement of a child with them. In that situation, the employees are entitled only to a combined total of 12 weeks as opposed to each being entitled to 12 separate weeks of FMLA leave.
Third, while FMLA leave generally may be taken intermittently or on a reduced-leave schedule, there's an exception for the birth of a child, adoption, or foster care. Intermittent leave is taken in separate blocks of time because of a single qualifying reason.
A reduced-leave schedule reduces an employee's usual number of working hours each workweek or workday. A reduced-leave schedule changes the employee's schedule for a period of time, normally from full-time to part-time. When leave is taken after a child's birth, adoption, or foster care placement, an employee may take leave intermittently or on a reduced-leave schedule only if the employer agrees.
That exception doesn't apply if the mother has a serious health condition in connection with the child's birth or if the newborn has a serious health condition. In those instances, the employer's agreement isn't necessary.
While an eligible employee is entitled to FMLA leave for the birth of a child, there are certain limitations placed on his request for leave. Specifically, he isn't automatically entitled to intermittent leave or a reduced-leave schedule.
In your situation, he is entitled to such leave only if you agree. You should consider the fact that he is entitled to take FMLA leave for the birth of a child and weigh the pros and cons to determine whether it's in your best interest to grant intermittent leave or a reduced-leave schedule.
Depending on the circumstances, it may be more harmful to you if he takes the FMLA leave in a block of time, which he is entitled to do, as opposed to agreeing to intermittent leave or a reduced-leave schedule.
Because each situation is different, a blanket policy may not be applicable. You should be careful not to discriminate, however, and be able to articulate a nondiscriminatory reason for granting intermittent leave or a reduced-leave schedule to certain employees while denying it to others. As always, if there's any doubt, you should consult with your employment counsel.
Copyright © M. Lee Smith Publishers LLC. This article is an excerpt from SOUTH CAROLINA EMPLOYMENT LAW LETTER. SOUTH CAROLINA EMPLOYMENT LAW LETTER is not intended to provide legal advice, which can be given only after consideration of the facts of a specific situation.


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