Union Thugs?????

[2631]

Originally Posted by a9faninnc

Maybe its more of a shot at the leadership of the organization,perceived or reality.What a lot of guys call greedy corporations on here,some may "perceive" the organization on that same level.

Do you think that Crazy One or 2631 is part of the "leadership of the organization" or are we just "union thugs" because we don't like the idea of greedy companies being able to make record profits & still cut freight rates simply by paying their employees less than industry standard wages & benefits?

[a9faninnc]

Originally Posted by 2631

Do you think that Crazy One or 2631 is part of the "leadership of the organization" or are we just "union thugs" because we don't like the idea of greedy companies being able to make record profits & still cut freight rates simply by paying their employees less than industry standard wages & benefits?

WELLLLL,I see alot of shots at drivers just because they are organized or not.I could care less who you work for,though alot of drivers dont feel that way....From both sides.Also,who is the judge for industry standard wages and benefits??The organized companies??

[2631]

Originally Posted by a9faninnc

WELLLLL,I see alot of shots at drivers just because they are organized or not.I could care less who you work for,though alot of drivers dont feel that way.....From both sides.

NOOOO not on this thread you don't see that. You are still trying to make this a union/nonunion issue. This thread is about overtime plain & simple. All the "bigboys" like the nonunion FedExs & Conways pay their people overtime.

Overtime;
1. working time before or after one's regularly scheduled working hours; extra working time.
2. pay for such time (distinguished from straight time).
3. time in excess of a prescribed period.

Originally Posted by a9faninnc

Also,who is the judge for industry standard wages and benefits??The organized companies??

Thanks a9faninnc, that question just about sums up all my reasons for the posts that I make concerning overtime pay.....Its all about the attempt by greedy corporations to lower the standards for American workers.

Standard;
something considered by an authority or by general consent as a basis of comparison; an approved model.

The unions fought long & hard for many years to establish the standards that American workers enjoy today....The FedExs & Conways realized this & for whatever their reasons they didn't use the exemption in the Federal overtime law to deny paying their hard working employees the industry standard overtime pay that they deserved....Now we are seeing some of the smaller nonunion LTL companies, who use the "loophole" in the law & don't pay their workers overtime, try & join the "bigboys" by expansion....... So we we now have a battle for control of who will set the standards in the LTL industry........I do not want to see the industry standards which most of us enjoy today lowered by greedy companies like the Estees & R&Ls that won't even pay their hardworking employees overtime.

The way things are going in this country, either we bring them up to our standards or they will eventually drag us down to theirs. And by we I mean all American workers union & nonunion. Overtime pay is not a union issue.

[a9faninnc]

You are still trying to make this a union/nonunion issue. This thread is about overtime plain & simple.

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My bad,maybe I shouldnt have looked at the thread title..

[2631]

Originally Posted by a9faninnc

You are still trying to make this a union/nonunion issue. This thread is about overtime plain & simple.

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My bad,maybe I shouldnt have looked at the thread title..

The question marks (?????) are there for a reason. Your posts avoid answering my question about the issue of overtime pay by trying to keep it as strictly a union issue.

Originally Posted by 2631

Why is it that anytime anyone posts that a company should be paying its hardworking dedicated employees overtime the union bashing starts? Its not really a union issue, most nonunion ltl companies also pay overtime..... Here we are in the 21 century & a couple of companies still use a loophole in the law to avoid paying their employees what they are intitled to.

You are intitled to post what you want, but why don't you address the issue? There are plenty of other threads on this forum to attack the union, which appears to be what your intent is....... How about you addressing the fact that I attempted to make about overtime pay not being a union issue.

[a9faninnc]

I'm sure every employee in the industry would love to see the loophole regarding overtime dismissed,however until that time comes its a companies choice.Most of these employees that work with these corporations were aware of these practices before they signed on.Hell,theirs a lot of practices I dont like with my employer,though I signed on knowing"their rules".

Sorry if you or any other deemed my post as an attack on your organization,that wasnt my intent.