A Joke

[Animo916]

Originally Posted by x475

Ok. You dont have an answer either, so you start with the name calling. If you don't have enough self-respect to want better wages, benefits, and working conditions, then who is the "D___ A___" ?

Gee, I wonder how long it will take for one of them D___ A____'s
to come back with an intelligent answer?

[braceface]

Originally Posted by x475

Glad we could brighten your day...or was that your stock answer when you've run out of anti-union bullshit?

No its that you all are such a joke, the sh!t you say is humerous....Your precious union are choking the companies they supposedly represent to death... The union will be the death of your companies because of your GREED.....

[braceface]

Originally Posted by 2631

Not that this has anything to do with R&L spending millions on sponsoring a race car instead of paying its employees overtime, but does anyone really think that customers ship their freight with R&L because they are a part time sponsor of the #17 car that is in 13th place in the standings & hasn't won a race this year?

If that were true then why wouldn't they be shipping with FedEx instead since they are a full time sponsor of the #11 car & its in 7th place & has already won a race this year.....And on the opposite of the argument why hasn't UPS lost business because they are the full time sponsor of the #44 car which is way back in 27th place?

Yeah I think people some people ship their freight with us because out name is on the #17 nascar.
Come on man, can't you see the big picture ? Since you started driving in 1969, you may luck out and retire, and maybe even get some pension benefits... Young men coming into the union will not be so "LUCKY".
The union is a losing proposition.

[braceface]

Originally Posted by Animo916

I thought your name was braceface. Therefore, shouldn't braceface be on the side of the car?

While not an ABF employee, I do know that ABF runs a very competant and competitive business. Even if the yard or trucks are substandard, the work is getting done and profits are being made. Besides, when did you become an authority on what the industry standards are?

The union doesn't run the company, corporate management runs the company. Therefore, management are the ones responsible for the direction of the company, not the union. Cf was shut down because of the holding company, CNF, that had supposedly spun them off to concentrate their efforts on the non union, Conway divisions. I'm sure the Teamsters were responsible for CNF funneling CF money to buy fuel, terminal, tractors, and trailers for Conway. Just like I'm sure the Teamsters were responsible for Jevic shutting their doors as well. Give it a rest already.

Name one Teamster fund that is being bailed out by the government. Also, you aren't the only taxpayer here, and if that scenario did occur, I along with every other taxpayer would be paying the bailout as well. But I guess you feel it's alright that we had to bail out the savings and loan companies a few years back, and we are now bailing out other financial institutions that were going belly up due to poor investment and lending strategies. That's ok in your book but god forbid the government should help the Teamsters, which like I mentioned before, they presently are not.

Why don't you post your pay and benefit package so we can compare notes? Am I to assume that you want me to blindly accept what you are saying is gospel? As also mentioned before, the union isn't breaking anyone, nor have they broken anyone. It is always the companies decision to continue down their agreed upon path, or to close the doors, the union has no say in it whatsoever. As a matter of fact, when the course becomes negative, the union usually reaches out to the company and asks, "what do we have to do to keep things progressive?"

Like we are the only ones? Every company in this industry is facing serious problems with the current economy. Why is Fedex restructuring their operations in a similar fashion as YRCW? Why is it that if the Fedex drivers don't follow their work, they will be out of a job? Why is it that some Estes drivers are crying that they can't get more than 2 or 3 days a week of work? Why is it that Jevic is no longer in the picture? Silly me, I forgot, it's because of the Teamsters

More competitive? gimme a break. Take a peak at some of the other threads here like Conway, Estes, Fedex, even your precious R&L thread. Look at all the disgruntled employees, not happy with their treatment, equipment, losing customers and accounts, fellow workers, pay and/or benefits. Why is there so much talk about organizing in the Conway or Fedex threads? Personally, you might be happy with your lot in life but maybe it's time for you to.......

The Unions are choking the companies they represent to death...It is a losing proposition to work for a union carrier... The union will destroy your companies in the forseeable future. You can say what ever you want about your overtime and precious "bennies". I wouldn't work for the teamsters, who wants to be layed off, and closed down...

[Beanstalk]

Originally Posted by braceface

....Your precious union are choking the companies they supposedly represent to death... The union will be the death of your companies because of your GREED.....

This post simply shows how uneducated you are on union representation. Unions do not represent companies, they represent the employees that work for those businesses. Also, both the companies and the membership negotiate the contract and work rules that both sides must adhere to because the contract is a binding legal document. Notice that both parties must agree on wages, benefits, insurance, and work rules. If a company can't compete because of these rules, how is it the unions' fault ? Shouldn't the said company be better managed ?

If R&L offered you the time and a half that every employee deserves after working 8, 10, or 40 hours in a day or week, would you take it ? Or, would you decline so your precious business can continue slashing freight rates at the expense of their hard working employees ? Companies such as your employer are dragging down wages, and that's a negative for the entire industry. Granted, you might think you are working in the best environment available, but what happens when it goes to far ? I can hear you now .... " Hey, I only make $10 an hour, but damn, the resort is nice and, did you see the race on Sunday ? "

[2631]

Originally Posted by braceface

The union will be the death of your companies because of your GREED.....

My (our) "GREED", what greed is that? If you mean the industry standard wages & benefits that I have received for the past 39 years then I certainly don't consider that greed. If your company started to pay you less in wages & benefits would you consider yourself greedy for not being happy with it?

Union negotiated wages & benefits have always set the standard in the LTL industry. It's the "bottom feeders" that are ruining what was once a good paying "blue collar" job by their "low balling" freight rates at the expense of their hard working employees.

Don't you find it strange that the "big boys", both union & non union, are able to pay their employees top wages & benefits & are still able to make a good profit? I wonder how huge a profit the "bottom feeders" are making due to the fact that they pay their hourly employee's substandard wages & benefits?