Chuckles got it right the Teamsters are splitting up.

[Apostolic]

To address you Sir TOXIC.
Yes I said all my union years were all bad.
Maybe I'm the rarest case you've heard of.

But I had nothing but trouble being a union member from the start.
I've posted bits,and pieces of my union run-ins in past posts.

Back in the day if you weren't one of the Teamsters union yes men,and agreed with everything they said,and did,than you had better of just kept your mouth shut,and did your job,without greaving anything if you knew what was good for you.

It wasn't only me that came up short with union representation.
I knew other members that were in the same boat.

But you say the Teamsters now are better.
Maybe they are I can only go on what I know from 1966 to 1986.

[big steve]

Originally Posted by Apostolic

At the local union meeting I attended for my UPS Freight terminals question,answers,about organizing.
The V.P. of the local union stated we'er to get a contract not as good as the NMFA.
But would be better than what we have now.

I figured from his statement that even though we haul LTL freight the union wanted us to be seperate from the few remaining union LTL companies.

When the new NMFA contract comes due what leverage would be in place to get another good contract with just a small membership working for these last union LTL's?

It seems like the union wants us to join them,but doesn't want us to included in their long established freight contract?

Its just kind of fishy to me,that they would not want us to take part in the NMFA contract to have more support when it comes due next year?

I had a lot of questions when this meeting leader addressed this issue,but I was given the bumsrush,as he went on to address other topics of my co-workers.
I took it as this is the way it is like it or lump it.
According to all of you truckingboard Teamsters I'm reading to much into this issue.
Maybe your right,we'll just all have to wait,and see what the IBT has in mind?

it simply shows you that your union rep may know something but is far from being nostradamus
no one truly knows what the end result will be and his bumsrush diaplayed that fact all too well
he seems to want to show you he is appearing to be knowledgeable without being so
he's speculating
as to not being NMFA only hoffa knows why
email him and ask him but do us all a favor and share his response with the rest of us
you aren't reading too much into it for sure:owned:

[stldude44]

Originally Posted by Apostolic

To address you Sir TOXIC.
Yes I said all my union years were all bad.
Maybe I'm the rarest case you've heard of.

But I had nothing but trouble being a union member from the start.
I've posted bits,and pieces of my union run-ins in past posts.

Back in the day if you weren't one of the Teamsters union yes men,and agreed with everything they said,and did,than you had better of just kept your mouth shut,and did your job,without greaving anything if you knew what was good for you.

It wasn't only me that came up short with union representation.
I knew other members that were in the same boat.

But you say the Teamsters now are better.
Maybe they are I can only go on what I know from 1966 to 1986.

Apo,
One point to make here is that whatever went on on Rochester from 20 to 40 years ago doesn't mean that the entire Union is bad. You have descibed yourself as a very unhappy person back then who had alot of anger built up and was always ready to fight due to a rough upbringing, right? Then when you became a Christain you became a much different person and much calmer....these are your words from previous posts.
Do you think it might be even remotely possible that you were a headache to the Union officials back then without justification? I'm not saying that you were, I'm just asking you to really look deep inside and try to remember. I deal with some unhappy people at work all the time and I've found out that it's usually not the job or the Union that's really bothering them......they just blame the job, Union and everyone else rather than take a look in the mirror. Again, I'm not saying this is the case but alot more often than not I've found it to be true.
You just can't seem to let go your hatred of the Teamsters, even though you seem to be a happy-go-lucky guy otherwise. No matter what any of us say, you pretty much doubt it but grab onto anything negative that somebody may suggest whether it's true or not. I have no problem with your Christianity whatsoever, but I wonder why the Teamsters seem to be the only part of the old you that you can never let go.

[Apostolic]

If your forever being rejected by people your paying monthly dues payments to,regardless if I didn't agree with all their ideas.
I should of been able to count on their help when I really needed it.
I'm really not bitter,but only can remember the bad times I had with union leaders,in my Teamsters local.
They were always their for the members that were the rah,rah,yes your always right agreeing even if they didn't agree with whatever the union was doing.
These members would always grumble about our local leadrs to other members but would be yelling out their support at the union meetings.
Well your right I really don't like looking back at these bad times in my past.
I've forgiven all that have done me wrong,and am trying to live in the present.
I guess the union lovers on the truckingboard have brought all these forgotten memories to my mind.

The past is just that the past theres not a thing you can do about even one second that has passed.

Anytime anyone has done me wrong I pray that God will have mercy on them at judgement day.
Than work on forgetting about it.
Since I've been on the truckinboards,and have seen how so many union lovers have their total trust in the Teamsters,all of my old bad memories have come back,to my mind.
And I post of these bad experiences.
Sorry if I've offended any of you other posters,but I can only call it from what I went through in my past with my local union represenitives.

[Kennesaw Kid]

The NMFA strike was in 1994....not 1996 as posted above......KK

[Apostolic]

I remember a strike I was in,that was really wierd.
The big companies had their workers with unfair labor signs walking the line at their terminal front gates.
The next group of Temaster companies had a lock-out,closing up not allowing any work.
Than the small union companies kept right on hauling freight,like there was no strike.
The union said these small companies would have to much of a economic hardship if they had to stop working.
Other strikes I was a part of in my union past.
Every union trucking company was shut down.
In short order the contract was signed off,and everything went back to business as usual.