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10-04-2006, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by owlpuss our roadmen dont even break or make there own sets unless the barn is dark | And triple time is awesome for breaking those sets up when its not a dark terminal and they are to busy to do it for you. I used to eat that stuff up! | 
10-05-2006, 11:07 PM
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you radical teamsters are so predictable.Because they tell you con-way put c.f. out of business you believe it I guess they better not tell you to run off a cliff for your sake.I used to be a teamster, my dad owned a teamster trucking co.The teamsters don't care whether you work or not all they want is your dues money had the president of a local tell me that.From then on I will never be a teamster, I know how benefits are paid, a lot of drivers think their dues pay their benefits that is just the slush fund thats goes for nothing but "administrative"costs they will not give up their does money they will sell you down the river first.Wait till and if upsf goes union it wont be the nmfa as you know it their will be a sweet heart deal and the rest will follow suit good for one good for all you will be in for a rude awakening I guarentee it.
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10-05-2006, 11:48 PM
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| | Teamsters Don't Care? I Beg To Differ!
I beg to differ with you sir, but in my local our officials do care if we work. My officials are all elected from the rank and file, and are dock workers, drivers, office clerks, etc...When their terms are up, if they don't run for election or are defeated, they go back to their jobs at whatever barn they came from. Our benefit packages are negotiated with our employers either through national contracts like Small Package, Freight, or Carhaul, or through smaller "white paper" contracts in dairy, bakery, warehouse, brewery, etc....Our benefit packages are second to none, and yes we have had some cuts, but a lot of us have demanded some accountability from our Health and Welfare and Pension Funds, and have tried to get our negotiators to get as much as they can from our employers to contribute to these funds. UNLIKE the non-union companies, we elect union trustees to our plans who are supposed to look out for us. In your plans, you rely on the company actuaries, attorneys, accountants, and spin doctors to look out for you.
Not that this is bad, but I think I trust an elected union trustee on my plan a lot more than an appointed trustee by your corporate execs and board. In today's economy, we have to fight to maintain what we have in our Health and Welfare and Pension Plans, and we have to DEMAND accountability for the officials who have any fiduciary responsibility for the wise spending of our Health and Welfare and Pension contributions.
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10-05-2006, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by freightmaster1 I beg to differ with you sir, but in my local our officials do care if we work. My officials are all elected from the rank and file, and are dock workers, drivers, office clerks, etc...When their terms are up, if they don't run for election or are defeated, they go back to their jobs at whatever barn they came from. Our benefit packages are negotiated with our employers either through national contracts like Small Package, Freight, or Carhaul, or through smaller "white paper" contracts in dairy, bakery, warehouse, brewery, etc....Our benefit packages are second to none, and yes we have had some cuts, but a lot of us have demanded some accountability from our Health and Welfare and Pension Funds, and have tried to get our negotiators to get as much as they can from our employers to contribute to these funds. UNLIKE the non-union companies, we elect union trustees to our plans who are supposed to look out for us. In your plans, you rely on the company actuaries, attorneys, accountants, and spin doctors to look out for you.
Not that this is bad, but I think I trust an elected union trustee on my plan a lot more than an appointed trustee by your corporate execs and board. In today's economy, we have to fight to maintain what we have in our Health and Welfare and Pension Plans, and we have to DEMAND accountability for the officials who have any fiduciary responsibility for the wise spending of our Health and Welfare and Pension contributions. | I am glad you said it and I have to say you did a fine job of saying it.
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10-05-2006, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by trucker you radical teamsters are so predictable.Because they tell you con-way put c.f. out of business you believe it I guess they better not tell you to run off a cliff for your sake.I used to be a teamster, my dad owned a teamster trucking co.The teamsters don't care whether you work or not all they want is your dues money had the president of a local tell me that.From then on I will never be a teamster, I know how benefits are paid, a lot of drivers think their dues pay their benefits that is just the slush fund thats goes for nothing but "administrative"costs they will not give up their does money they will sell you down the river first.Wait till and if upsf goes union it wont be the nmfa as you know it their will be a sweet heart deal and the rest will follow suit good for one good for all you will be in for a rude awakening I guarentee it. | What was the name of this company your dad owned and are they still open?
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10-06-2006, 12:03 AM
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| | Nation Master Freight Agreement Sets The Bar High For The Rest Of You  Back in 1964, (yes before my time) when Jimmy Hoffa Sr. negotiated the first National Master Freight Agreement, he demanded that the employers respect the truck drivers and dock workers who worked hard for them, and he handcrafted an agreement that had "living wages" and excellent working conditions and above average benefits for employees in the trucking industry. The NMFA has survived for 42 years now, and has changed some over the years. Yeah we don't have as many employers as we did back in the 60's and 70's (deregulation took care of that starting in 1980), but we still have a good chunk of the LTL freight moving on Teamster driven trucks.
Every single benefit that you non-union truckers, dock workers, hostlers, mechanics, office clerks, etc...have now was because of the blood sweat and tears of the hard working Teamster members in freight who worked under that 1964 NMFA and all the subsquent NMFA's up to the present time. Without the Teamster negotiated NMFA, you guys would be making about half of what you do now, and the health and safety, and working conditions you take for granted now, would not be there. Without the union, non-union would suffer! I might not agree with everything my union leadership does, or how they do it, but I am darn lucky to be working for a union LTL carrier who is covered by the NMFA. God Bless The Teamsters Union!
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