How do the union guys do it??

[Familyman]

As some may have noticed if you check the FXF board that we have been having job cuts as has just about everyone in the world.

The difference is that our system is by board and not co seniority when we transfer from one to the other we go to the bottom, however since layoffs are kind of a new thing for us the way they have been doing the cuts is by co seniority in job class, if you have the opportunity to bump a none cdl dock then you go to the bottom of the city, if not then you are just plain gone.

There have been comments on how the union guys do it and since we can't discuss it there, you know why, I wanted to ask you guys here, in the proper forum.

Any unionized carriers that have separate board seniority how does it work there in regards to a voluntary transfer where there's an opening and you want it versus a forced where there is a cut back, are you out in the street while a new hire keeps his job in the city??

Thanks for any replies

FM

[slackdragon]

Thanks for starting this FM ...it has been 24 years since I was union ... so I don't know how it is now .... but it was job class for me then ....

[truckinusa]

Some places its combined. Some it is not. Here in Dallas you are either Dock\City or Road. You cannot transfer from Road to Dock\City or vice versa without losing seniority.

[2631]

I can't answer for any other Teamster's NMFA area supplements but at my terminal here in NJ any layoffs would be done strictly by seniority, not by any job classification. We have a combination barn with just 1 seniority list, by the date of hire. The last man hired is the first layoff from that master seniority list. Bids do not play any part in layoffs.

As far as I know the only exception would be the shop steward. He has super seniority. He would be the last man laid off. And that is for the obvious reason so that he can't be singled out & harassed for his union activities.

[flstc2000]

It's not a cut and dry answer due to the fact that different areas may have different supplemental rules in place.
I'll answer for my location only.
At my terminal we have a separate list for the city and for the road. We can't jump between that list and must remain on whichever list we started on. As for seniority, it's your company seniority in respect to the job, or bid you choose in the city. It is strictly picked by seniority and any lay offs start from the bottom of that list. For the road, work calls start in seniority order, number one picks first and down the line until all work is exhausted for each day.
So as for your last sentence, a junior seniority man in the city may get work while a senior road man may not. That also goes both ways and their were many years where the bottom city men sat home during the slow winter months while the road kept the entire list working.
At your base terminal however, your company list seniority is how we operate no matter what.
Like I said however, that is only for my location, each area can or may have different work rules.

[222lifer]

Originally Posted by flstc2000

It's not a cut and dry answer due to the fact that different areas may have different supplemental rules in place.
I'll answer for my location only.
At my terminal we have a separate list for the city and for the road. We can't jump between that list and must remain on whichever list we started on. As for seniority, it's your company seniority in respect to the job, or bid you choose in the city. It is strictly picked by seniority and any lay offs start from the bottom of that list. For the road, work calls start in seniority order, number one picks first and down the line until all work is exhausted for each day.
So as for your last sentence, a junior seniority man in the city may get work while a senior road man may not. That also goes both ways and their were many years where the bottom city men sat home during the slow winter months while the road kept the entire list working.
At your base terminal however, your company list seniority is how we operate no matter what.
Like I said however, that is only for my location, each area can or may have different work rules.

It is the same at our barn.