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10-05-2008, 04:14 PM
| | Capitalist Pig | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: S East
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Originally Posted by truckermoses Only a true American will vote for the right person and that would be Ron Paul its sad Americans are afraid to vote for a independent | If Ron Paul was on the ticket maybe we would.... whats the deal with you Ron Paul people? Do you think they are gonna change the rules and throw McCain, Palin off and put Ron Paul on?
give the Ron Paul stuff a breaK
has he decided to run as a 3rd party candidate? Did I miss something?
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10-05-2008, 06:25 PM
| | Brown and Broke!!!!! | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: York, SC
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Originally Posted by Tater_55 I would vote for Colin Powell in a heart beat if he were running. I don't care which party he was with either.
But I'm sure some people will not belive that because of their prejudice.!!!! | Colin Powell could possibly run as an Independent. And probably be the first Independent that would actually have a chance. I'd definately vote for him also.
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10-06-2008, 12:16 AM
| | Lurker | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Western NC
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While I am not a huge fan of McCain, and I would certainly want something other than the excesses of the past, I must be frank. Obama frightens me. Yes, I can't get over the fact that his early teachings were in a radical Muslim school. None of my feelings have anything to do with race, before we drag out THAT tired old horse. The thing that makes me fearful is his unabashed Socialist ultra-leftist views that make even Jimmy Carter look like a Reaganite. He wants to increase taxes. His avowed policies are nothing but warmed-over socialism that has NEVER worked and never WILL. Government is NOT the answer. If it were, the "Great Society" would have been a resounding success! We STILL have poverty, there's always BEEN poverty, there will always BE poverty. And that is just ONE small part. Transferring wealth thru the hands of government is the same as setting money on fire. Have you EVER known government to do something efficiently or RIGHT? Four Hundred Dollar hammers come to mind. The programs trotted out over and over and over (ad sickem) do NOT work, never HAVE worked and never WILL work. OH, they sound good and people buy it because they think there IS pie in the sky and they can get something for nothing. Social programs BUY VOTES. Empty words that promise to take money from "the wealthy" and give to the "poor" sound wonderful, but if money stolen from others thru government (taxes) actually achieved anything, we'd all be rich! Want to see the el pinko' socialists' utopia? It was called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and it, naturally, FAILED!!!! Mr Obama is a Socialist/communist (call it by any other name it is still the same). A vote for Obama is a vote to give up Freedom for Security.
A vote that says you aren't capable of running your own life. A vote to have your hard-earned income "transferred" forceably thru taxes to someone or some "program" to help "the poor". (Well, I"m poor but I ain't gonna give up my gun and I ain't going to respect or knuckle under to socialism).
Mr Obama is known to be associated with such leftist and commie organizations as the Weather Underground. It has been stated that his Harvard education was paid for by a Saudi businessman. And TELL me ANY real "programs" or thing Mr Obama actually did in the Senate other than vote "present". It has been said that there is huge amounts of money coming in from foreigh sources. WHERE? WHO? He has openly stated that he would negotiate directly with our enemies (another typical and STUPID) move by el pinko leftists that believe that "peace" can be negotiated thru any other position than strength. FLASH! Iran HATES OUR GUTS, WILL CONTINUE TO HATE OUR GUTS, WILL ATTACK THE USA AT THE FIRST SIGN OF WEAKNESS. Dont believe it? Look up Neville Chamberlain, Prime Minister of Great Britain in 1939 who waved a "peace accord" upon returning from negotiating with Hitler and chirped, 'Peace in our time." In September of that year, Hitler invaded Poland and put Jews in Ghettos, eventually sending them to their deaths.
Now, I am not Mr McCain's biggest supporter, but even "same old, same old" is better than what Obama has in store for America. Socialism could be revenge for perceived past(?) sins, and a "cure" worse than the disease. You better think TWICE about this.
Gadfly
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10-06-2008, 12:28 AM
| | Gone Fishin | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lost On A Lake
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Originally Posted by Gadfly While I am not a huge fan of McCain, and I would certainly want something other than the excesses of the past, I must be frank. Obama frightens me. Yes, I can't get over the fact that his early teachings were in a radical Muslim school. None of my feelings have anything to do with race, before we drag out THAT tired old horse. The thing that makes me fearful is his unabashed Socialist ultra-leftist views that make even Jimmy Carter look like a Reaganite. He wants to increase taxes. His avowed policies are nothing but warmed-over socialism that has NEVER worked and never WILL. Government is NOT the answer. If it were, the "Great Society" would have been a resounding success! We STILL have poverty, there's always BEEN poverty, there will always BE poverty. And that is just ONE small part. Transferring wealth thru the hands of government is the same as setting money on fire. Have you EVER known government to do something efficiently or RIGHT? Four Hundred Dollar hammers come to mind. The programs trotted out over and over and over (ad sickem) do NOT work, never HAVE worked and never WILL work. OH, they sound good and people buy it because they think there IS pie in the sky and they can get something for nothing. Social programs BUY VOTES. Empty words that promise to take money from "the wealthy" and give to the "poor" sound wonderful, but if money stolen from others thru government (taxes) actually achieved anything, we'd all be rich! Want to see the el pinko' socialists' utopia? It was called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and it, naturally, FAILED!!!! Mr Obama is a Socialist/communist (call it by any other name it is still the same). A vote for Obama is a vote to give up Freedom for Security.
A vote that says you aren't capable of running your own life. A vote to have your hard-earned income "transferred" forceably thru taxes to someone or some "program" to help "the poor". (Well, I"m poor but I ain't gonna give up my gun and I ain't going to respect or knuckle under to socialism).
Mr Obama is known to be associated with such leftist and commie organizations as the Weather Underground. It has been stated that his Harvard education was paid for by a Saudi businessman. And TELL me ANY real "programs" or thing Mr Obama actually did in the Senate other than vote "present". It has been said that there is huge amounts of money coming in from foreigh sources. WHERE? WHO? He has openly stated that he would negotiate directly with our enemies (another typical and STUPID) move by el pinko leftists that believe that "peace" can be negotiated thru any other position than strength. FLASH! Iran HATES OUR GUTS, WILL CONTINUE TO HATE OUR GUTS, WILL ATTACK THE USA AT THE FIRST SIGN OF WEAKNESS. Dont believe it? Look up Neville Chamberlain, Prime Minister of Great Britain in 1939 who waved a "peace accord" upon returning from negotiating with Hitler and chirped, 'Peace in our time." In September of that year, Hitler invaded Poland and put Jews in Ghettos, eventually sending them to their deaths.
Now, I am not Mr McCain's biggest supporter, but even "same old, same old" is better than what Obama has in store for America. Socialism could be revenge for perceived past(?) sins, and a "cure" worse than the disease. You better think TWICE about this.
Gadfly | Right on the Money Gadfly | 
10-06-2008, 11:37 AM
| | Kook! | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: plowed field Indiana
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Originally Posted by Jeff If Ron Paul was on the ticket maybe we would.... whats the deal with you Ron Paul people? Do you think they are gonna change the rules and throw McCain, Palin off and put Ron Paul on?
give the Ron Paul stuff a breaK
has he decided to run as a 3rd party candidate? Did I miss something? |
Ron Paul has endorsed Chuck Baldwin (Constitution Party).
Every time I even THINK about voting for McCain, he does another stupid pet trick. The latest: He says he'll appoiint Warren Buffitt, Joe Lieberman, and algore to run his Cabinet. Why bother voting for a Repub, if that supposed Repub will appoint Dems to run his Government? How is he then different from the Marxist Obama?
I'm voting for Chuck Baldwin. No matter the results. I cannot consciencously vote to endorse a man that wants algore to run his "Climate change" initiative......
The Bible warns us that we WILL be persecuted. Sounds like the time is almost here.....
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10-06-2008, 01:16 PM
| | Seasoned Veteran | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: colorado
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The question was, "who will win the White House?" It wasn't, "who will you vote for?" Right now, 62% of you are going to be very disappointed. I don't like either one of them, but I can be objective and say that under the present circumstances, it will be Obama.
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