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Obama/Biden
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McCain/Palin
|    | 191 | 61.41% | |
Other
|    | 9 | 2.89% | |
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10-03-2008, 09:05 AM
| | Gone Fishin | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lost On A Lake
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Letting the Bush Tax cuts expire raises taxes mostly on the wealthy.
| These taxes effect all citizens with BHO you would get $1,000 compared to the current $3,200 back. Quote: |
Yeah, Lincoln was a real disaster.
| Different era , now you have the Chicago Machine and the Illinois Machine , If you know anything about Illinois and Chicago politics you would know about this. Let's see you have former Gov Ryan(R) in Jail , Current Gov BLOW HOLE in the Process of getting indited , Rostenkowsi Jail , Emil Jones stepping down setting his son in place to replace him ,Stroger steps down his son gets anointed in his place , you have the Two Daley's Father and Son. No if you are aware of the way business is done in Illinois and Chicago in particular you would understand and the names I mentioned only scratch the surface add in all the corruption that swirls around like Rezko and others like him. Quote:
I'm done with scandal, i.e. the "New" Republicans. Karl Rove, Larry Craig, Dick Cheney, Ted Haggard, Dick Cheney, W, Scooter, Dick Cheney, Gonzales, Dick Cheney...
I could go on.
| Let's just ignore all the corruption associated with this whole mess we are in with the Fannie/Freddie thing and all the players behind the scenes Like Barney, Chris ,and the rest of the Dems involved. Quote: |
I fear any politician or party that urges me not to look at history.
| Wow you have not been paying attention or choose to ignore that Obama and his "Truth Squads" are trying to re write history and are all out ignoring Obamas History and that includes the proxies in the Main Stream Media , So You must fear Obama/Bidden then. Quote: |
Nope. It was deregulation of the banking industry that allowed everyone to run amuck.
| Nope it was not just Deregulation it was the Payoffs in the forms of lobby money and the push to get everyone a home even if they could not afford one. It was the cozy relations in Congress with those running these companys and that crosses political lines but led by certian Dems And pushed by groups Like ACORN. Quote: |
To those that choose ignorance (by making these comments) over enlightenment and education; You are prime examples that prejudice, intolerance, and racism are alive and well in this country.
| And who is really fuelling these fires? Obama and his campain " If you dont Vote for Obama you are a Racist!!!!!!"
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10-03-2008, 09:38 AM
| | Seasoned Veteran | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Up
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Originally Posted by denverdriver You can Google search "obama black racist" and see scores of hits.
Only one woman smacked me, so I promptly escorted her to the door. But the real issue isn't whether someone smacks me or you or anyone else, the issue is that Biden - whose sister DID smack him around - wrote a blatantly unconstitutional law that violates Equal Protection. | If it is unconstitutional, why hasn't the republican Supreme Court tossed it? Why don't you bring it to their attention?
Easier to just ***** about it than do anything about it huh?
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10-03-2008, 09:43 AM
| | Fast as a speeding bullet | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Michigan
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Originally Posted by rbakeremai Nope. It was deregulation of the banking industry that allowed everyone to run amuck. Greed has always been there and always will be. McCain and Bush and their “Get government out of the way” policy that got us here. Look it up. Reduced limits on lending and other slashes in oversight is what let people run wild. It’s amazing how this is Clinton’s fault somehow. Please quit buying the BS, it‘s costing the rest of us money and work.
McCain, who does not fully understand the economy (his own words) will drive our economy even further into the dirt. Cutting taxes does not create jobs, no matter how you figure it. New industry creates jobs. Alternative energy. That stuff has to be transported=good for us drivers.
The Republican party has been selling snake oil for a very long time. I know, I used to be a customer. McCain used to be unique, but now he pedals the same crap. Too bad, he used to be a maverick, but now he’s just a stooge. | Yes, he did say that he does not fully understand the economy, that is why you always surround yourself with intelligent people. There is no way for anybody to be perfect at every subject. Unless you don't mind lying to the people. Now, about the "cutting taxes does not create jobs comment." In my opinion, you are totally wrong! If you don't let the companies keep their money, how do they add equipment and machinery to their operation. If you take all of this tax money from them, they can't do anything towards expanding their business. If you let them keep their money they expand, which creates JOBS!
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10-03-2008, 09:45 AM
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Higher taxes and increased spending how has that worked for California , Michigan , Illinois has that encouraged growth in these states, has that increased jobs in these states , are these states Broke? Yes they are Broke.
The lower tax vs Raising taxes is boiled down to spending that is were the problem is , lower taxes has been proven time and again to increase revenue but when you increase spending at a rate that can not keep up is were you run into problems.
So you increase taxes you get a short term boost until; industry relocates and unemployment skyrockets but then you tie in the fact that Obama has already committed to a spending spree of over a trillion dollars on top of the Trillion in the whole this bailout will put us in , and you will see a depression because all those jobs that the evil big buissness guys provide us will be gone so yes it will effect the middle class in the end.
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10-03-2008, 09:51 AM
| | Veteran | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: U.S.S.A
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Originally Posted by JLKKLJ777 It is clear to me that the majority of members here at Truckingboards have a decidedly Republican or conservative slant. I doubt you will get a different result to this poll because you do not have an adequate cross section of the populace. For the current national polls you can check here; FiveThirtyEight.com: Electoral Projections Done Right: today's polls
The polls show a clear winner by almost every metric. Obama.
Comments about Obama being a terrorist or a muslim or hating this country, are made by ignorant individuals. In their case they are so blinded by their prejudices and hatred for a black man they will latch onto anything to try to justify that hatred.
To those that choose ignorance (by making these comments) over enlightenment and education; You are prime examples that prejudice, intolerance, and racism are alive and well in this country. | Are you saying dems are racist? Check the yahoo news about a week ago. They don't want him either. He'll win because he hasn't gone under the scrutiny Palin has. If he doesn't hate America then why did he sit in a church for 20 years with an anti american, anti semite preacher? Would McCain ar any other republican candidate be able to do this?
I don't think he is a terrorist or muslim but terrorists support him The weatherman and Bill Ayers. But you aren't supposed to know that I guess I'd better watchout for the truth squad!
Do you want a president that would use a truth squad aginst people who disagree with him? Since he is black, if you don't vote for him you are racist. It isn't because I like my paycheck, Oh right it isn't my money it belongs to the government they just me think it's mine.  
Vote third party and screw both rep an dem's! http://baldwin08.com/ | 
10-03-2008, 10:09 AM
| | Fast as a speeding bullet | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Michigan
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Originally Posted by Toby Higher taxes and increased spending how has that worked for California , Michigan , Illinois has that encouraged growth in these states, has that increased jobs in these states , are these states Broke? Yes they are Broke.
The lower tax vs Raising taxes is boiled down to spending that is were the problem is , lower taxes has been proven time and again to increase revenue but when you increase spending at a rate that can not keep up is were you run into problems.
So you increase taxes you get a short term boost until; industry relocates and unemployment skyrockets but then you tie in the fact that Obama has already committed to a spending spree of over a trillion dollars on top of the Trillion in the whole this bailout will put us in , and you will see a depression because all those jobs that the evil big business guys provide us will be gone so yes it will effect the middle class in the end. |  TOBY Bingo!!!! I'm from Michigan. Our state is toast! Unemployment is the highest in the nation. More EVIL big businesses have already made near future plans to pack up. It's going to get worse. Now yesterday, I hear that McCain has pulled all of his advertising ads. He gave up on the morons. Good! Why waste good money on this state. I guess my Michigander friends like the soup line. Oh wait, I shouldn't say that, that is a favorite line of the Dems. We get what we deserve in this state! I hope everyone here enjoys the soup line. They even re-elected her after her first four years of failure. I wish the best for the laid-off people that are tired of Jenny. | | |  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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