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10-17-2008, 12:54 PM
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By calling Obama a terrorist, that means that anyone who ever sat on that board is also a terrorist! I would also fully expect an investigation on him and he be put on trial
| if a Rep that sat on that board was running for Prez, the MSM would be all over it. The MSM is in the bag for BHO. This is historic and they want to be part of it and dont want anything or anyone to screw it up. Quote: |
Democratic solcialism works quite well for all of Western Europe.
| is that way in the last elections, mostly conservatives won.
The French dont want to work now 1/10th of the population is muslim workers imported from Africa.
Germany imports Eastern European workers because the people dont want to work.
England has the same problems as France. Mohammad is the most popular name given to babies in England, and they are on 3rd generations that have never worked. The healthcare system shuts down in Sept/Oct because there is no more money till the first of the year.
All have substantually higher tax rates and a lower quality of live. Go to Europe, I have been. You can fit two or three homes in England in i average American house.
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10-17-2008, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bubba74 you are correct. The tax rate is built into the price of the product or service and passed along to the consumer. Therefore if a widget costs a $1 to make and the US tax rate is 39% the widget now cost $1.39 (then of course you would add in profit)
If you raise corp tax rates to 54% (like BHO would do on small business) the same $1 widget now would cost $1.54. Prices go up, conversly if you do like Ireland and lower the tax rate (13% I beleive) that widget only costs $1.13. So it is true that the corp (per say) does not pay taxes in a sense they do because it is in the price of the product. | correct - I have no problem with lowering coporate taxes as long as they pay their taxes - close the loop holes and eliminate corporate welfare. Quote:
Originally Posted by bubba74 so how will BHO "trickle up economics" work. Poor peole will start hiring? | They will consume which is what really drives the economy... More consumption = more jobs. And, some might even be able to save enough to start a new business.
We already know how the Reagan economic model has worked out. It's time to put the plug in and lift the boat with the rising tide...
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10-17-2008, 01:02 PM
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They will consume which is what really drives the economy... More consumption = more jobs.
| not if you dont fix the corp tax rate. If it is raised like BHO wants to do, more larger companies will go overseas and smaller companies will close or downsize. The end result is less jobs in this country.
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10-17-2008, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bubba74 if a Rep that sat on that board was running for Prez, the MSM would be all over it. The MSM is in the bag for BHO. This is historic and they want to be part of it and dont want anything or anyone to screw it up.
is that way in the last elections, mostly conservatives won.
The French dont want to work now 1/10th of the population is muslim workers imported from Africa.
Germany imports Eastern European workers because the people dont want to work.
England has the same problems as France. Mohammad is the most popular name given to babies in England, and they are on 3rd generations that have never worked. The healthcare system shuts down in Sept/Oct because there is no more money till the first of the year.
All have substantually higher tax rates and a lower quality of live. Go to Europe, I have been. You can fit two or three homes in England in i average American house. | Dude, the conservative parties of Europe are more liberal that the Democratic party in the USA. Also, your tired old misleading statements about their quality of life and work ethic are blantantly wrong and the facts do not bear them out... Been to Europe and yes it is not a utopia, but the
return on their investment (taxes) affords them the lives as I described - and the facts suppport me. Get this, the only place the USA leads in the world today is in military spending and military exports, in health care cost as a percentage of GDP, and in national debt - just the facts...
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10-17-2008, 01:23 PM
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Dude, the conservative parties of Europe are more liberal that the Democratic party in the USA
| Not even close the Dem party of America is a bunch of socialist/Marxist, at least the leadership is, I dont want to offend long time Dems that voted for JFK (who wouldnt win a Dem primary today).
There return on investment in taxes may be fine, however, do you really think that those in Washington would actually redo the tax code, or just add another 20% on the top? I think the later.
If European healthcare is so great them why to people come here for treatment. Was does Canada have to send mothers here for neo natal care? I guess we would have more money in the tressury if we did not have to defend the world and had someone kicking us billions. the poor in this country live better than most of the middle class in Europe, based on house size, food quantity and material possessions.
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10-17-2008, 02:18 PM
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McCain is the best (only?) hope to defend ourselves against the raising tide of Islamofascism around the world.......Obama, although well meaning and charismatic, does not have the experience and/or motivation to do so.......The interesting thing in all of this discussion, is that you all think that it really matters one way or the other.....They really aren't all that different on most of the critical issues.................is would seem to me, that we have a choice of New American Socialism (McCain), or, Absolute, Total Socialism (Obama)...........In either case, I suggest you all reach around behind you, and grab a firm grip on your wallet, cause they are coming for it.........the only difference, will be, how much is left after they get done with it.....(Mccain......a little)...........(Obama.........none)....Anyway, it ain't gonna be dull.......
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