That would be up to us. If Americans would get off their lazy, self-rightous asses and make their voices heard, we could actually bring about change. The Washington insiders get away with the crap they pull because they keep "us" devided with nonsense and wedge issues. If we could put the country 1st (as McPalin says) and get over all the small stuff - mostly right to privacy issues - we could actually get a 21st century democracy. Oh, and the Democrats in Congress are no more Marxist than the Republicans are Fascists. Actually, the Republicans are far more Fascists and Theocratic...


Dude, you are so out of touch with reality. Europeans DO NOT come to the USA for their healthcare, nor do Canadian mothers come here... and I absolutely agree that if our foreign policy did not include policing/conquering the world we could have it better here at home.

Again, just because you keep saying it doen't make it true...
And not everyone measures quality of life by McMansions in the burbs and material posessions. Check out the residents of our major cities... European food quality is just fine, as I stated earlier, they are healthier than US Americans.

I realize it is hard for Americans who have always believed the rhetoric - America is the greatest country in the world - to come to terms with the fact that this is not the 1950s and the rest of the "industrial" world has caught and surpassed us in nearly every sector of civilization, but those are the facts. Now, what can we do to make our country great again for all of us? Social Democracies work!

George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.

A little over two years ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000 +
5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas,
living large!...

But American's wanted 'CHANGE'!

So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes--we got 'CHANGE' all right.

In the PAST YEAR:

1) Consumer confidence has plummeted;
2) Gasoline is way overpriced;
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase);
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS
and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~
$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS
& MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS!

YES, IN 2006 PEOPLE VOTED FOR CHANGE...AND WE SURE GOT IT! ....

REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS.

Rep. Ed Markey called for major oil companies to support a measure to give up $18 billion in tax cuts and channel the money into renewable energy.
The measure passed the House earlier this year but later died in the Senate, in April 2008.

AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.


Congressional ratings first hit nine percent (9%) back at the beginning of July, marking the lowest ratings recorded by Rasmussen Reports.

Ratings hit the same low two weeks later. Congress has not received higher than a 15% approval rating since the beginning of this year.

NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY
GIVE CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS!!!!

JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND?

There are other people running for president, Bob Barr,Chuck Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nadar.

No, it didn't. As I said, I started to listening to Limbaugh in 1989, about the same time that I became a Teamster. I carried water for conservatism for over 10 years (while collecting union pay and benefits) before coming to my senses. I thought my other post made that clear.

It was when I picked up a used copy of the book "The Great Limbaugh Con: And Other Right-Wing Assaults on Common Sense" that I started thinking outside of the conservative box. I disavowed Limbaugh, but still called myself a conservative. After reading "What's the Matter With Kansas" and "One Market Under God," both by Thomas Frank, I became a liberal.

So now I vote and understand that the cons are useing these cultural issues to get me to vote for THEIR best economic interest and against my own.

The cons have no intention of outlawing abortion (at least not for their teenage daughters). Your teenage daughters? yeah. They have one morality for you and me and another for themselves.

The cons are graduates of elite universities and fancy themselves cosmopolitan and urbane, they embrace homosexuality everywhere but in their stomp speeches and have gay friends, bosses, employess. They just demogogue the issue and put it on ballots to get hayseeds out to vote in elections. They know it will not pass, and they would be embarrassed if it did passed.

There are real ways to fight gay marriage -- and constitutional amendments is not one of them. They know that will fail. They just want the issue to run on. If they were serious about it, they would use local methods that would lead to serious small successes to build on.

Yes. I believe in social welfare. Corporations and wealthy investors beleive in it very very very much for themselves, and so should you. Corporations LIVE on social welfare. Why do you think there are masses of lobbiests on K Street in DC? They are there to see to it that they get social welfare -- in this case known as corporate welfare. Tax breaks, favorable regulation (yes more regulation that protects them, not you and me), strict copy right laws, cheap labor, etc.

This is just silly. First of all I don't believe it. And secondly, what does it have to do with your ability to pay your mortgage, get affordable healthcare, drive a decent car, live in a good neighborhood, give you a good paycheck that gives you dignity and lets you hold you head up and take pride in your work. These economic things are real. Lesbians getting "married" 4000 miles away from you has no reality on your life. This is nonsense.

So you vote for humiliting proverty for yourself because some city slickers in San Fransico are acting like idiots?

I understand completely. Believe me I do. BUT. Are you going to vote Republican because the Democrats didn't do enough to stop the Republicans? That makes no sense.

During the upheavels of the Civil Rights movement and the Vietnam War the Democratic Party stopped making economic issues their main message and made civil issues their main message. The results have been devistating for them. The conservatives jumped into that vacum like a tick on a hound dog.

Not true. But is seems that way because the conservatives force the Dems to defend civil issues 24/7. Someone brings up economic issues and a right winger will pounce with social/cultural issues. And the lib, rather then being left looking like an ***, is sucked into defending a bunch of nonsense that has little to do with life's realities.

Example A: the conservative response to my above post.

Me too. But I wouldn't vote for a Republican if Abraham Lincoln himself was running. There is a clear difference between the two Partys. Democrats support unions, OSHA, minimum wage laws, social security, pensions, etc. Republicans don't.