| Forum Stats | Members: 24,363 Threads: 59,438 Posts: 705,460 Total Online: 182 Newest Member: jspjoseph | | | |
View Poll Results: Who Do You Want To See In The White House | |
Obama/Biden
|    | 202 | 29.97% | |
McCain/Palin
|    | 410 | 60.83% | |
Other
|    | 48 | 7.12% | |
Not Voting
|    | 14 | 2.08% |  | | 
10-22-2008, 08:30 PM
| | Fast & Furious | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mexifornia
Posts: 3,416
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by mickey arby, i do not believe in a god, and to lump all freedom loving non socialists into that category shows your weakness and readiness to follow the cows to the slaughter... THE RICH DO NOT PAY TAXES they sell stuff for a price and make a profit they hire people to do this they pay them so they can buy the stuff, if you increase the bottom line for companies they increase prices to compensate, also BHO will have to also raise taxes on the rest of the middle class who already pay as his (pelosi and reids) policies will costway to much, socialist programs cost european workers as much as 40% of their incomes and they wait in line for care, they must pay there is no choice for them... seems to me the socialst party of choice for abortion ought to be able to understand the meaning of choice (freedom),,,,,,,,,,
look keep the ultra as_holes in the economic world close to existing laws and send them to jail, including FRANK and DODD, and give incentives to keep jobs here and create the new ones we need to take the world to the future... just don't try the failed economic kneejerk reactionary policies of the dems that have failed every time they have been tried, including extending the last depression for over 10 years (read the forgotten man - written by an economist) and carters admin crushing the economy to the brink, I was there i remember... thelast time we had a balanced budget was when the real republicans passed a resolution and forced clinton into signing it... we can get there again with jobs and freedom to spend when and where you want to... I will bet you a dollar right now that yours and my taxes will rise and jobs will diminish and prices rise if BHO is elected, I as a trucker will experience very lean times as people will not have jobs or enough money to buy things and fuel under BHO carbon taxe will cost to much for the middle class and also force frieght to caost much more to move... we will see 7 and 8 dollar a gallon fuel/gas just like europe...
when prices rise so much and taxes take more than a normal family can afford the next civil war will start - but hey according to you at least we can stand in line for medical care for free...
mickey
NGU-NGI (never give up, never give in) | That about sums it up.......... | | |  | 
10-23-2008, 09:12 AM
| | Lurker | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego
Posts: 5
| |
Kurt,
Government better? Over 30 trillion for welfare and it just keeps growing.
Social Security? Total nightmare. Have seen what should be a suppliment for people's retirement, turn into a ""right" to the social security money for druggies, alchies, and other various supposed sickness'.
Want to see how socialized medicine and drugs work? Go to England. Once when there found that there was one doctor for three hospitals and you had to wait for a couple of days for certain drugs.
The bail out? All of the leaders in the house and senate made a bundle... and so did bush... and so did the CEO's of the various companies.
Writing stuff on the internet? It's getting scary. If Obama wins this election, with a liberal control of house and senate you can look for the "fairness" doctrine where there will be NO disputing opinions, NO right to own a weapon, being afraid of what you say to your neighbors, the press will say what the govt wants them to say, (kind'a what they do anyway, but your favorite radio station where you can hear the mostly truth will be gone.), ...
You aren't going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours, so this is sorta' pointless.
prediction: Obama will present his Birth Certificate when he comes back from Hawaii. "Look what I found at grammies house!!!"
bnckr
| 
10-23-2008, 11:12 AM
| | Seasoned Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kentucky
Posts: 11,206
| | Quote: |
Social Security? Total nightmare. Have seen what should be a suppliment for people's retirement
| now they want your 401K: House Democrats Contemplate Abolishing 401(k) Tax Breaks | workforce.com Quote:
Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.
House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-California, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, are looking at redirecting those tax breaks to a new system of guaranteed retirement accounts to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.
| The "Fairness Doctrine" will return: ABQNews - 1:45pm -- Bingaman Backs Return of 'Fairness Doctrine' Quote:
New Mexico Democrat tells KKOB's Jim Villanucci he wants to restore 'balance' to talk radio.
Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., said right out loud in an interview with 770 KKOB Radio's Jim Villanucci what many of his fellow Democrats have been reluctant to say out loud -- that he favors the restoration of the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" that would require a balancing of viewpoints on the largely right-tilting world of talk radio. | And BHO style heathcare, went broke and was ended in Hawaii after a whole seven months: southchild » Blog Archive » Socialized Medicine Failure in Hawaii Quote:
Gov. Linda Lingle’s administration cited budget shortfalls and other available health care options for eliminating funding for the program. A state official said families were dropping private coverage so their children would be eligible for the subsidized plan.
“People who were already able to afford health care began to stop paying for it so they could get it for free,” said Dr. Kenny Fink, the administrator for Med-QUEST at the Department of Human Services. “I don’t believe that was the intent of the program.”
| this plan only covered childern, imagine the absolute failure when you try to cover everyone. Quote: |
Obama will present his Birth Certificate when he comes back from Hawaii. "Look what I found at grammies house!!!"
| there in Grandmas basement as we speak, putting one together.
| 
10-23-2008, 12:28 PM
| | Seasoned Veteran | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 39.53 -77.75
Posts: 1,752
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by bubba74 not if you dont fix the corp tax rate. If it is raised like BHO wants to do, more larger companies will go overseas and smaller companies will close or downsize. The end result is less jobs in this country. | Then you raise import tariffs
| 
10-23-2008, 12:36 PM
| | Gone Fishin | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lost On A Lake
Posts: 6,172
| |
P&D that should be done regardless .
| | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is On | | | |